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From: Dwight Hutto To: "Prasad, Ramit" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: "python-list@python.org" X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 110 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1347585120 news.xs4all.nl 6920 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:44583 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:29095 On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 7:26 PM, Prasad, Ramit wrote: > Dwight Hutto wrote: > > [snip] > >> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 3:37 AM, Mark Lawrence >> wrote: > > [snip] > >> Others would be able to see this for themselves but >> > you insist on sending email without context. Please don't do this. >> >> How are my emails without context? I'm referring the OP to the docs, >> as well as posts related to their question. It goes to use google, and >> RTFM, and putting it politely to them. >> > > > I have noticed that you do not always quote what you are talking about. > Sometimes I can guess or look at another message and see what you > are talking about, but not always. This list philosophy seems to be > "quote what is relevant and trim what is not". Not on a > "go lookup the previous message to find context". > >> I could summarize, but they have to do the real reading. I'm not >> researching this, and if I was, I'd charge for the time. This is to >> show that things can get complex if you don't use google, or read the >> docs. > > > Context is not the same as explaining absolutely everything. > It means that I, the reader, can see *what* you are talking about > and what you are responding *to*. > > I do agree with the stance not to spoon feed OP(s). > >> >> Why does the OP keep asking here, when there are answers out there. >> especiThey would still need to process transactions like cash while offline, and they would also need access to their inventory.ally on the pywin list, which Windows users are usually referred >> to. > > I was not aware that Windows users were "usually" referred anywhere. > Most referrals are on a case-by-case basis as many problems or > questions from Windows Python developers are Python questions and > not specific to pywin. > >> >> Please point out what's out of context. The links and references place >> it into context if the OP finds them useful, and I believe I searched >> well for them. >> >> Would the OP like to tell me I wasn't helpful? Because now they're >> probably on a search to figure out how to make these compatible, which >> means more questions, and more reading. > > Nobody is claiming you are not helpful. I appreciate your effort, > I just do not always know what is going on in a thread especially > if I see the thread jump to something I can contribute to but now have > no context with which to help. Not to mention that the archive for > this list is searchable. Your answer is much more useful for future > searchers if you leave some context for someone reading this. > > [snip] > >> >> Let's not argue about this, I was pointing them to what I saw as the >> best possible resources to overcome his current problem, and it was >> all in context of the conversation as far as I'm concerned. >> > > It is in context of the "thread", but the context of the > "conversation" was lost. > > > This email is confidential and subject to important disclaimers and > conditions including on offers for the purchase or sale of > securities, accuracy and completeness of information, viruses, > confidentiality, legal privilege, and legal entity disclaimers, > available at http://www.jpmorgan.com/pages/disclosures/email. > -- > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list Your point is taken. Most of the time, if it's in an in line response I would write the email line by line, with the referenced text shown above my response. However, when it seems like a conversation, I just trim the above, and respond. That's how I view an e-mail, like an ongoing conversation. >From now on, I'll leave the mailing I'm responding to above, and delete the point's I'm not talking about, which is about what I usually do. So being attacked about no context(which was an attack out of context, based on a few messages one night), when the whole conversation is in the topic reader/gmail/etc seemed a little ignorant to reading through. All he had to do was look back up to the email s just above my response, and see, or read just through mine, not read everyone. But anyway, I'll be more informative as to exactly what I was referencing, instead of treating it like an ongoing conversation where everyone was present, and paying attention to the whole of the topic. -- Best Regards, David Hutto CEO: http://www.hitwebdevelopment.com