Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Michael Selik Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Design: Idiom for classes and methods that are customizable by the user? Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 20:33:11 +0000 Lines: 31 Message-ID: References: <5734ECDF.7070006@gmx.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de vQW3u/RRbS4rhkKTzy2wcARfEqnICF3wL7vb3/YDqt4g== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.005 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'api': 0.09; 'derived': 0.09; 'python': 0.10; 'def': 0.13; 'explicitly': 0.15; 'languages.': 0.15; 'subject: \n ': 0.15; '(more': 0.16; '2016': 0.16; 'alarm': 0.16; 'cls': 0.16; 'gregory': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'registry': 0.16; 'skip:@ 20': 0.16; 'subject:user': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'string': 0.17; '>': 0.18; 'input': 0.18; 'to:2**1': 0.21; 'decorator': 0.22; 'sets': 0.23; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'fri,': 0.27; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'defining': 0.27; 'function': 0.28; 'idea': 0.28; '13,': 0.29; 'subject:that': 0.29; 'raise': 0.29; "i'm": 0.30; 'classes': 0.30; 'probably': 0.31; 'statement': 0.32; 'class': 0.33; 'picking': 0.33; 'similar': 0.33; 'add': 0.34; 'that,': 0.34; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'could': 0.35; 'c++': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'received:209.85': 0.36; 'to:addr :python-list': 0.36; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'skip:& 10': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.38; 'received:209.85.220': 0.38; 'why': 0.39; 'subject:the': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'some': 0.40; 'share': 0.61; 'making': 0.62; 'more': 0.63; 'great': 0.63; 'hear': 0.64; 'subject:Design': 0.79; 'bells': 0.84 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=1ojfi6s77uxKQm6N1tqPwcHC+AkYKcd7Z3/kQGD45V8=; b=tjQvrO1IhvmSeKp2xRl6rjnGM7XU4MMeLzBpMStTH94A43WoXREdlaFmeq+VyMIHQY +heEotiiHwjjlW+D37s1IXoqEs+j58r8t5lXtbg5dsC9o25U1lzcQ6LYQM0HOqCI3uqn Tq9s3ZFRY1G3WHr/OJiKN0jd32pm7gywL3eVYMxAblW0LLO/DePpmjtTKx2QGRK2AVPL KgNaFy1kyZ6GifiM0/oeTPOlHlbzrCN7+FTk9qA4mNTze9qXatDhZutjHu1nPs506I2V OzCk79P6uIz5UTWrTf6vXk4EML3erQs4+vplPw13e0irqPwenTFRIGIfAeEFIqsBCUt6 B8cw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=1ojfi6s77uxKQm6N1tqPwcHC+AkYKcd7Z3/kQGD45V8=; b=J+Yf3HWHOufrUK7IrzrJ/IebR4RDYfVYAZ7nVus5J0mAIrFKyeWzTJFJoGwGORM6Wm pHusLHup/EBhODTIcHGBHw6ezMg8Z/Uqqc7q9EGHIfM4N9wb5zefrnG/7iHfVE1R7sqU GQvQO062fFMh9uLm7qA6R2MjNpa2zVy9DRZrZlgTP5OqVI8NRZbvjj9+AjNNiUxOX0G9 ovlKAj5LscXVQIhIorCFzvWlNCzZRtVofXU0THQPRmTAPCHOOUH8olMfxqWKEU8HXnQW DE3AkmaqAODjck7VwRZh0R+oQb+xmjIjAR+9hSBOFjHzwJypEQm2e+EXI3OLvNi1IUlD VIHw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOPr4FWQYRN9OLv78yVJOlIfuY6wEpxSyogyBLSo//6Vr8q+Xgh0rGwMFgIppoELycwSjnbTzeToXu97HmCylA== X-Received: by 10.55.15.102 with SMTP id z99mr13502940qkg.209.1463171601335; Fri, 13 May 2016 13:33:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: X-Mailman-Original-References: <5734ECDF.7070006@gmx.de> Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:108619 On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 2:41 AM Gregory Ewing wrote: > Dirk B=C3=A4chle wrote: > > I'm currently following the "Factory" pattern (more or less) as I know > > it from C++ and similar languages. > > This statement sets off alarm bells for me. If you're using some > design pattern in Python just because you learned to do it that > way in C++/Java/whatever, you're probably making it more > complicated than it needs to be. > I share Greg's trepidation when I hear a phrase like that, but the general idea of a registry of classes or functions and then picking the right one based on string input is fine. How would the API work for custom Taskmasters? It's not so great to require that the user must explicitly ``add`` their derived class after defining it. Perhaps that add function could be a decorator? def register(key): def decorator(cls): if not issubclass(cls, Taskmaster): raise TypeError('You fool!') registry[key] =3D cls return decorator @register('noclean') class NoCleanTaskMaster(TaskMaster): "Looks clean enough, why worry?"