Path: csiph.com!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.071 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.86; '*S*': 0.00; 'python,': 0.02; 'received:209.85.223': 0.03; 'that?': 0.05; 'python': 0.09; 'student': 0.15; 'tutorials': 0.15; 'blindly': 0.16; 'gpg': 0.16; 'right-click': 0.16; 'textarea': 0.16; 'url:lmgtfy': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'jan': 0.18; 'code,': 0.18; '(or': 0.18; '(b)': 0.22; 'keyboard': 0.22; 'stopping': 0.22; 'tools,': 0.23; 'header :In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'disabling': 0.29; 'smart': 0.29; "they'll": 0.29; 'url:mailman': 0.29; 'source': 0.29; 'probably': 0.29; 'that.': 0.30; 'fri,': 0.30; 'code': 0.31; 'url:python': 0.32; 'url:listinfo': 0.32; '(a)': 0.33; 'designs': 0.33; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; '(c)': 0.33; 'received:google.com': 0.34; 'thanks': 0.34; 'fail': 0.35; 'pm,': 0.35; 'received:209.85': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'next': 0.35; 'really': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; "didn't": 0.36; 'enough': 0.36; 'received:209': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'copying': 0.38; 'nothing': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'apply': 0.39; 'help': 0.40; 'url:mail': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'skip:u 10': 0.60; 'protection': 0.62; 'relatively': 0.62; 'provide': 0.62; 'taking': 0.65; 'content,': 0.65; 'prime': 0.65; 'talking': 0.66; 'overcome': 0.71; 'sounds': 0.71; '2013': 0.84; 'can\xe2\x80\x99t': 0.84; 'etc,': 0.84; "they'd": 0.84; 'don\xe2\x80\x99t': 0.91; 'wordpress': 0.91; 'url:click': 0.93; 'url:tk': 0.93; 'hand,': 0.97 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Jq3LfY4lFNYMhCShyG9eFLd3s+o3/g6R63iWDti0B28=; b=uYINPoJjF8xI9uXJVHAFhgRnky5bWcX/DhbJ4oPrXqrdzYoeAMJRupH0XnukJvwjOu ogN45ucziw+5pwCm7jPPl49JjywdQOfFo8NZx8T9mXZ7bGz8XVPbMwfX+02UqH80kY3K jAqxQ3x9IdOkaI4gXvzIjrkSDW0lBS/oORD/idBwr8NNH7Asz2QUWxlrH5bWtV7fwAnt 0j/HODK0WdkaKNKfR0q7VGHw2NYJq9l0Y0N99/5Gzxje6Kur1EJdBDJq9GIXpT/lNvNa mDTArsQj/RaEDGGN9S/YKDZBi1M70ssJaHt4BNNpjJNkMkmC++g3tpvaWHMmoE90Euk9 AGRA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.53.196 with SMTP id d4mr2974864igp.88.1358536813445; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 11:20:13 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <2e694a98-8a50-472e-89a0-92212a00464b@googlegroups.com> <50F96FCE.8020003@it.uu.se> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 20:20:13 +0100 Subject: Re: Beginner Tutorials From: Kwpolska To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 43 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1358537163 news.xs4all.nl 6851 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:37221 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:37024 On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 6:04 PM, Rik wrote: > The reason for disabling right-click has nothing to do with protecting co= ntent, and everything to do with stopping my students from taking the lazy = way out. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=3Ddon%27t+disable+right+click > Given the chance, they'll copy/paste the code and download the designs an= d edit them slightly. They'd get through the tutorials in about 25 minutes = and have learnt next to nothing. Ways to overcome it: (a) curl/python -c 'import requests; requests.get('/wget http://usingpython.com/; (a nice textarea with the code (b) browser development tools, view source keyboard shortcuts etc.; (c) OCR; (d) disabling JavaScript; (e) writing it by hand, because it is relatively short. > In talking to students about existing resources, they said that blindly c= opying code didn't really help them get a deep understanding of algorithms = and how to apply them to other problems. Can=E2=80=99t you fail them (or whatnot) if they don=E2=80=99t learn that? = That sounds like the best solution to such problems. > In the password-protected solutions i will provide downloads to source co= de, etc, and any student smart enough to get around my protection probably = understands python basics :) WordPress =E2=89=A0 Python, unless your password is a code used to generate the 01189998819991197253 number out of prime factorization or something like that. > Thanks for the comments. > -- > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- Kwpolska | GPG KEY: 5EAAEA16 stop html mail | always bottom-post http://asciiribbon.org | http://caliburn.nl/topposting.html