Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.009 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:: [': 0.04; 'pop': 0.05; 'elegant': 0.07; 'element': 0.07; 'mouse': 0.07; 'happen.': 0.09; 'highlighting': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'useless': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'jan': 0.12; "'to": 0.16; 'docs.': 0.16; 'invisible': 0.16; 'link,': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'subject:] ': 0.20; '>>>': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'section.': 0.24; 'header': 0.24; 'people,': 0.24; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header :In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'idea': 0.28; 'am,': 0.29; "i'm": 0.30; 'gives': 0.31; 'argue': 0.31; 'says': 0.33; 'guess': 0.33; 'case,': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'add': 0.35; 'really': 0.36; 'in.': 0.36; 'useful': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'being': 0.38; 'others.': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'does': 0.39; 'sure': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'either': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'according': 0.40; 'how': 0.40; 'is.': 0.60; 'most': 0.60; 'received:173': 0.61; 'email addr:gmail.com': 0.63; 'personal': 0.63; 'such': 0.63; 'presented': 0.69; 'clicking': 0.73; 'unusual': 0.74; 'click': 0.77; 'discover': 0.82; 'batchelder': 0.84; 'disappear': 0.84; 'irrelevant': 0.84; 'received:fios.verizon.net': 0.84; 'tastes': 0.84; 'collective': 0.91; 'subject:+': 0.91; 'incredibly': 0.96 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Terry Reedy Subject: Re: [OT] Usage of U+00B6 PILCROW SIGN Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2014 18:00:59 -0500 References: <9aafd758-8c54-4abf-9ac4-46e970158131@googlegroups.com> <777aae72-b8f1-499a-84a5-197285847042@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-75-254-207.phlapa.fios.verizon.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 39 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1391554885 news.xs4all.nl 2872 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:55422 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:65456 On 2/4/2014 1:20 PM, Ned Batchelder wrote: > On 2/4/14 10:21 AM, wxjmfauth@gmail.com wrote: >>> > >>> >I was able to discover that link by opening the page, highlighting the >>> >section header with my mouse, then clicking the pilcrow. That gives >>> >me the anchor link to that section header. > > >> Useless and really ugly. > > I'm not sure why you would describe it as useless? Because, as we should all know by now, when Jim says 'useless', he means 'useless to me, according to my unusual notions of personal usefulness'. He, apparently, does not intend to ever use the pilcrow to get a section link, nor does he care about being able to click on such links presented by others. > It's incredibly useful to have a way to link to a particular section. For many people, but not for Jim. Either he does not care about usefulness to others, or he is completely oblivious to how idiosyncratic his personal idea of usefulness is. In either case, it is useless to argue against his personal opinion. He should, however, add 'to me' since most people take 'useless' in the collective sense. > And ugly? It's a UI that is invisible and unobtrusive, but then elegant > once you hover over the element you are interested in. Having it pop up and disappear when one does not want it and will not use it is not pretty. When scrolling with a mouse wheel, that does happen. > I guess tastes differ... Lots of sites use this technique, it is not > particular to the Python docs. Irrelevant to Jim. -- Terry Jan Reedy