Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder2.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder.news-service.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.016 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.97; '*S*': 0.00; 'used.': 0.07; 'python': 0.08; 'wrappers': 0.09; 'examples': 0.11; 'am,': 0.12; "subject:' ": 0.15; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'hmm.': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'received:74.125.82.174': 0.19; 'received:mail-wy0-f174.google.com': 0.19; 'header:In-Reply- To:1': 0.22; 'implicit': 0.23; 'mix': 0.23; 'sep': 0.23; "i'm": 0.27; 'fact': 0.27; 'classes': 0.28; 'subject:need': 0.28; 'thu,': 0.28; 'explicitly': 0.29; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.29; 'rarely': 0.30; 'subject:?': 0.31; 'used,': 0.32; 'this.': 0.32; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; 'curious': 0.34; 'declared': 0.34; 'useful': 0.36; 'but': 0.37; 'received:74.125.82': 0.38; 'steven': 0.38; 'received:google.com': 0.38; 'subject:: ': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:74.125': 0.39; 'happens': 0.40; '"what': 0.67; 'around?': 0.84; 'subject:always': 0.84; 'subject:class': 0.84; 'subject:self': 0.84 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Q6LouLSv5Tk32NROD/wYAoBIh9QWx8D44PWb1u1/GRQ=; b=TJkHQBbdei4R9lKOsxdTGjNTMc50mGQe77s2Rm8gkspBok0JjukK6GumNd6vV7bP2Q wYMSlt6BzGlhFEfCrslQZaaLOHFqcq5feB7x2aJuhr+3YHBL7saMGaVR8ywEQGawAyvj FphKqwJlBb4yY/4g1A8x90c0vwG77vCs+rZHM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4e5ed670$0$29981$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> References: <0dc26f12-2541-4d41-8678-4fa53f347acf@g9g2000yqb.googlegroups.com> <4e5e5628$0$29977$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <4e5ed670$0$29981$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 11:47:28 +1000 Subject: Re: Why do class methods always need 'self' as the first parameter? From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 13 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1314841650 news.xs4all.nl 2454 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:45406 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:12540 On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > Python classes have a lot of dynamism made possible by the fact that methods > are just wrappers around functions with an explicitly declared "self". That > dynamism is rarely used, but not *that* rarely, and is very useful when > used. Implicit self would likely negate all that. > Hmm. Got any examples sitting around? I'm curious as to what you can do with this. I'm like a kid with a new chemistry set - "what happens if I mix a little of everything together?"... ChrisA