Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!usenet-fr.net!nerim.net!novso.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.031 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.94; '*S*': 0.00; 'from:addr:ethan': 0.09; 'from:addr:stoneleaf.us': 0.09; 'from:name:ethan furman': 0.09; 'message-id:@stoneleaf.us': 0.09; '~ethan~': 0.09; 'wrote': 0.14; 'received:70.85.130': 0.16; 'received:70.85.130.22': 0.16; 'roy': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'feb': 0.22; '>>>': 0.22; 'saying': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'certainly': 0.24; 'skip': 0.24; 'question': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; '>>>>': 0.31; 'another': 0.32; 'subject:the': 0.34; 'no,': 0.35; 'object,': 0.36; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.36; 'so,': 0.37; 'problems': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'explain': 0.39; 'delete': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'called': 0.40; 'dave': 0.60; 'up,': 0.60; 'till': 0.61; 'received:173': 0.61; "you're": 0.61; 'smith': 0.68; 'article': 0.77; 'angel': 0.91 Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2014 21:34:41 -0800 From: Ethan Furman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: __init__ is the initialiser References: <858utviwgs.fsf@benfinney.id.au> <52EC3C40.7080402@stoneleaf.us> <52ec84bc$0$29972$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gator3304.hostgator.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - python.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - stoneleaf.us X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 173.12.184.233 X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: ([173.12.184.233]) [173.12.184.233]:40549 X-Source-Auth: ethan+stoneleaf.us X-Email-Count: 2 X-Source-Cap: dG9idWs7dG9idWs7Z2F0b3IzMzA0Lmhvc3RnYXRvci5jb20= X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 22 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1391406990 news.xs4all.nl 2884 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:39059 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:65322 On 02/02/2014 09:12 PM, Roy Smith wrote: > In article , > Dave Angel wrote: > >> Skip Montanaro Wrote in message: >>> On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 9:14 PM, Dave Angel wrote: >>>> And when the q-bits get entangled up, we won't know the question >>>> till after the answer has collapsed. >>> >>> Won't looking at the answer change it? >>> >> >> No, looking at it is what collapses it. Before that it was just >> another Schroedinger's cat > > So, what you're saying is when I delete an object, __del__() has both > been called and not been called? That would certainly explain the problems with __del__! -- ~Ethan~