Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.034 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.93; '*S*': 0.00; 'constructor': 0.09; 'creation,': 0.09; 'instance.': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'try:': 0.09; '[1].': 0.16; '__init__,': 0.16; '__new__': 0.16; 'finney': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'header :User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'controlling': 0.24; 'header:X-Complaints- To:1': 0.27; 'writes:': 0.31; 'subject:the': 0.34; 'tool': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:com.au': 0.36; 'clear': 0.37; 'skip:o 20': 0.38; 'ben': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'does': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'called': 0.40; 'new': 0.61; "you're": 0.61; 'provide': 0.64; 'more': 0.64; 'skip:\xe2 10': 0.65; '8bit%:21': 0.69; 'internet': 0.71; '8bit%:43': 0.74; '8bit%:46': 0.78; 'ethan': 0.84; 'furman': 0.84; 'received:125': 0.84 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Ben Finney Subject: Re: __init__ is the initialiser Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2014 13:10:21 +1100 References: <52EC0E3C.5070900@stoneleaf.us> <20140131224507.GA5454@cskk.homeip.net> <85ob2rhfxd.fsf@benfinney.id.au> <52EC3C14.8080806@stoneleaf.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: vmx15867.hosting24.com.au X-Public-Key-ID: 0xBD41714B X-Public-Key-Fingerprint: 9CFE 12B0 791A 4267 887F 520C B7AC 2E51 BD41 714B X-Public-Key-URL: http://www.benfinney.id.au/contact/bfinney-gpg.asc X-Post-From: Ben Finney User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:RkYMrzqAM7fHaOqTUwZ2sNEOmYs= X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 25 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1391220636 news.xs4all.nl 2829 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:60794 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:65163 Ethan Furman writes: > On 01/31/2014 03:47 PM, Ben Finney wrote: > > I suggest: > > > > Called automatically by the constructor “__new__” during > > instance creation, to initialise the new instance. > > But __new__ does not call __init__, type does [1]. My apologies, you're right and that's made clear at . Try: object.__init__(self[, …]) Called automatically after the constructor “__new__”, during instance creation, to initialise the new instance. -- \ “Software patents provide one more means of controlling access | `\ to information. They are the tool of choice for the internet | _o__) highwayman.” —Anthony Taylor | Ben Finney