Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.002 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'python,': 0.02; 'mrab': 0.05; 'say,': 0.05; '__init__': 0.09; 'constructor': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; '__new__': 0.16; 'initializes': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'ignore': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; '>>>': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'days,': 0.24; 'header:X -Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'post.': 0.31; 'comment': 0.34; 'subject:the': 0.34; "i'd": 0.34; "can't": 0.35; 'point.': 0.35; 'explains': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'previous': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'called': 0.40; 'teaching': 0.64; 'batchelder': 0.84; 'ethan': 0.84; 'furman': 0.84; 'choice.': 0.93 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Ned Batchelder Subject: Re: __init__ is the initialiser Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2014 17:44:30 -0500 References: <52EC0C0A.7010508@mrabarnett.plus.com> <52EC0E3C.5070900@stoneleaf.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 18.189.30.229 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 In-Reply-To: <52EC0E3C.5070900@stoneleaf.us> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 18 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1391208282 news.xs4all.nl 2948 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:32845 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:65145 On 1/31/14 3:57 PM, Ethan Furman wrote: > On 01/31/2014 12:48 PM, MRAB wrote: >> On 2014-01-31 19:52, Ned Batchelder wrote: >>> >>> Why can't we call __init__ the constructor and __new__ the allocator? >> >> The advantage of calling it the "initialiser" is that it explains why >> it's called "__init__". > > Hm, yes, good point. Also, __init__ initializes so it is a good > choice. Ignore the names comment in my previous post. These days, when teaching Python, I'd say, "__init__ is an initializer, or constructor." -- Ned Batchelder, http://nedbatchelder.com