Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!border1.nntp.ams1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!bcyclone05.am1.xlned.com!bcyclone05.am1.xlned.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed7.news.xs4all.nl!nzpost1.xs4all.net!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.008 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; '16,': 0.03; 'assignment': 0.07; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.09; 'python': 0.10; 'wed,': 0.15; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'gregory': 0.16; "guido's": 0.16; 'quantum': 0.16; 'subject:reference': 0.16; 'subject:versus': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'variable': 0.18; '2015': 0.20; 'cc:2**0': 0.20; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.20; 'affects': 0.22; 'sep': 0.22; 'header :In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'feature': 0.24; "doesn't": 0.26; 'chris': 0.26; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'cat': 0.29; 'another': 0.32; 'computing': 0.32; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'subject:" ': 0.36; 'pm,': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'data': 0.39; 'future': 0.60; 'other.': 0.64; 'matter.': 0.66; 'past.': 0.66; 'actually,': 0.84; 'chrisa': 0.84; 'computation.': 0.84; 'to:none': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=jyrvgRGVDuDT3Y01h/LsLLwpaMcyNvIhF6WfJ44zlYI=; b=ivMzyCBUJ01LoM/ZX5n6DxxYDR8wY4J9oknkWt8Ip+SO8RVTxIeSWrv5QUZ8xxBAEd NyqUen+PmsCfv43kHIL0tyqtbygjeiOe69vHQ6JfJ7lhtmZWM7LIlkShfPtwHR1CyHkR oQyTobCN57FJG5+PECL8Ic4Yn23ts/o8RmA4hYpeo4SXnYR1m+/4zRTs53kgR/sryTo1 OTcTxbRVrVA7gB0jx48snpzntREyTvGOZ11yKMC/IyBOoExN4X7f0ntJGJOFFXD83u4X AYr2dpHjc2j+YvoMVpfW1Cyvu8U0jCKRSUD8ldNoyt9FfSFj6cIB05HMO/EuFIbip8kA TofA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.178.145 with SMTP id cy17mr13991315igc.92.1442392419274; Wed, 16 Sep 2015 01:33:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8537ye6aau.fsf@benfinney.id.au> References: <1a1a1f6a-27ce-4c1b-807a-43eabaa04abb@googlegroups.com> <04ca9d7c-d02b-4329-bd94-4d18d86b3edf@googlegroups.com> <87egi375wb.fsf@gmail.com> <87wpvu5h7f.fsf@gmail.com> <87pp1l6h9a.fsf@gmail.com> <1442187517.2372486.382584889.2ED1B071@webmail.messagingengine.com> <874mix5a63.fsf@gmail.com> <55f6fdd9$0$1640$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <1442252093.231783.383350001.6CF3FF6F@webmail.messagingengine.com> <8537ye6aau.fsf@benfinney.id.au> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2015 18:33:39 +1000 Subject: Re: Terminology: "reference" versus "pointer" From: Chris Angelico Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 24 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1442392422 news.xs4all.nl 23851 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:39866 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl X-Received-Bytes: 4782 X-Received-Body-CRC: 4012436890 Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:96665 On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 6:24 PM, Ben Finney wrote: > Chris Angelico writes: > >> On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 6:14 PM, Gregory Ewing >> wrote: >> > This suggests an alternative model for Python computation. All data >> > is represented by cats. A variable is a box containing a cat. >> > Assignment replaces one cat with an entangled copy of another cat, >> > so that mutating either one affects the other. >> >> Quantum computing is the way of the future! > > Tachyon computing is the way of the future *and* the past. What do we want? Guido's time machine!! When do we want it? Before feature freeze... unless we get an exemption... actually, yaknow, it doesn't much matter. ChrisA