Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.037 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.93; '*S*': 0.00; 'imply': 0.07; 'subject:test': 0.07; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.09; 'python': 0.10; 'python.': 0.11; '(now': 0.16; '2.7?': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'least.': 0.16; 'really?': 0.16; 'subject:Problem': 0.16; 'subject:case': 0.16; 'subject:simple': 0.16; 'support)': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'shipped': 0.18; 'language': 0.19; '2015': 0.20; 'cc:2**0': 0.20; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.20; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'fri,': 0.27; 'least': 0.27; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'category:': 0.29; 'declared': 0.29; "we're": 0.30; 'guess': 0.31; 'probably': 0.31; 'another': 0.32; "can't": 0.32; "d'aprano": 0.33; 'steven': 0.33; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'could': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'pm,': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'sure': 0.39; 'does': 0.39; "didn't": 0.39; 'subject:with': 0.40; 'still': 0.40; 'company': 0.60; 'term': 0.60; 'default': 0.61; 'policy': 0.63; 'more': 0.63; 'our': 0.64; 'due': 0.65; 'fall': 0.66; 'policy.': 0.66; 'subject:. ': 0.67; 'day': 0.67; 'jul': 0.72; '10%': 0.72; 'chrisa': 0.84; 'to:none': 0.91; 'overall,': 0.93; '30%': 0.97 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=D2oE9HQN7FDEGfWkkxQ0Khnvb7K5LEOJFXWWljUArxg=; b=vPm1/jW4ZttFpmNOTYYS1HNqZyIsh/6PvCkjqj/vsCvUIbnXyE6MRTPiJwmh7u/g4I KGCeC1nxQAB6siIRkN6nautdT0DfeuFnRapE/PzvsetfnB0kRqQw8XAum/KLtDd8vcCf VjTMdzhW0MTnRtHLl7i1R23dQVEjOn2bKHV+6Dk6qhA6XK7H89yw0IWyZfHO1U/Qnfgu iZ9f4tS9z9pK8dw8walhl2Y7T1qGHjcNh//UwU5cK91aoDFEoPefe7L2BxsqglUOVBgZ sredhlqT3JvzYZTM8NiNJ31ldVqYndBA2UWNMjqYANdpq0BTZingKBFmfeSQu/j4M15o VPJA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.136.194 with SMTP id qc2mr8689820igb.6.1437102102506; Thu, 16 Jul 2015 20:01:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <55a86c1b$0$1657$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> References: <0165e508-b3b4-4a95-b1bb-e115893056f8@googlegroups.com> <79mdneVqW9UGgzrInZ2dnUU7-cOdnZ2d@giganews.com> <049ae0f4-96d1-4155-8618-32c8931febb0@googlegroups.com> <85d372eb-f39d-459d-be71-50ed7c9b966c@googlegroups.com> <55a86c1b$0$1657$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2015 13:01:42 +1000 Subject: Re: Noob in Python. Problem with fairly simple test case From: Chris Angelico Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 20 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1437102111 news.xs4all.nl 2843 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:56342 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.stben.net!border1.nntp.ams1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed8.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:93981 On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 12:44 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > My take from all this is that overall, Python 3 take-up is probably around > 10% of all Python users... Really? That low? Wow. I guess 90% could count as Rick's declared "vast majority", although that term does imply more like 99%. > Furthermore, there's probably another 30% who *want* to use Python 3 but > cannot due to company policy. In my day job, I fall into that category: the > company I work for use Python as their main language for our flagship > application, and by policy we're stuck with using the default Python on > Debian jessie, which is 2.6. Jessie's default should be 2.7, at least. Wheezy shipped 2.7, too; it's only Squeeze (now out of support) that didn't ship any 2.7.x Python. Are you sure you can't at least upgrade to 2.7? But yes, that's still not 3.x. ChrisA