Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.04; 'wed,': 0.04; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229.12': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'received:lo.gmane.org': 0.09; 'term,': 0.09; 'computing': 0.11; 'bieber': 0.16; 'declaimed': 0.16; 'email addr:ix.netcom.com': 0.16; 'email name:wlfraed': 0.16; 'finney': 0.16; 'from:addr:ix.netcom.com': 0.16; 'from:addr:wlfraed': 0.16; 'from:name:dennis lee bieber': 0.16; 'received:dsl.mindspring.com': 0.16; 'received:mindspring.com': 0.16; 'received:wlfraed': 0.16; 'url:netcom': 0.16; 'url:wlfraed': 0.16; 'wulfraed': 0.16; 'hire': 0.22; 'lee': 0.22; 'url:home': 0.25; 'probably': 0.30; 'engineering': 0.31; 'meaning': 0.31; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.32; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.34; 'apr': 0.38; 'hack': 0.38; 'received:org': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'comes': 0.39; 'header:Mime- Version:1': 0.39; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; '2011': 0.62; 'dennis': 0.68; 'writers': 0.68; 'press': 0.71; 'association': 0.72 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Dennis Lee Bieber Subject: Re: Teaching Python Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 21:01:48 -0700 Organization: > Bestiaria Support Staff < References: <1284d6a5-60e3-4575-a879-ba5014fd7763@glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com> <87d3kheqgs.fsf@benfinney.id.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: user-3cf84ob.dsl.mindspring.com X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 3.3/32.846 X-No-Archive: YES X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 14 NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.94.164.166 X-Trace: 1303272308 news.xs4all.nl 81484 [::ffff:82.94.164.166]:49043 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:3648 On Wed, 20 Apr 2011 10:06:27 +1000, Ben Finney declaimed the following in gmane.comp.python.general: > To be fair, the press already had its own pejorative meaning of “hack” > before the engineering and computing term, so the association was > probably inevitable. > Comes from all the hack writers they hire -- Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber AF6VN wlfraed@ix.netcom.com HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/