Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!usenet-fr.net!nerim.net!novso.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.131 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.75; '*S*': 0.02; 'talks': 0.03; 'charset:iso-8859-7': 0.04; 'english,': 0.09; 'okay': 0.09; 'bit...': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'way;': 0.16; 'worst': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'wed,': 0.18; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'words': 0.29; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; 'code': 0.31; 'getting': 0.31; 'that.': 0.31; 'option.': 0.31; 'quite': 0.32; 'everyone': 0.33; 'agree': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'collecting': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'two': 0.37; 'improving': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'anything': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'even': 0.60; "you're": 0.61; 'back': 0.62; 'skip:n 10': 0.64; 'different': 0.65; 'here': 0.66; 'nobody': 0.68; 'safe': 0.72; 'car': 0.72; 'bang': 0.84; 'bare': 0.84; 'learn.': 0.84; 'taxi': 0.84; 'whereas': 0.91; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=7sgLsOlsmUyeavqjxwCfMe32/3/e8oi72K431LtCGdk=; b=vyR8qMdN0Utste1YMxSeREEQIKvXPrOZY+jiJpm1kY4oBqDQXGwQAJChB3Y/M2Yb7q WPEtohRYfQLwPtarHBbVLBV/W7ZQmex3J6DfpOY3BE0ic02GFy2GNKQHDMHp+R3KL6z/ ugDVVS5ohnYCI07BitGx4b035potz7ZXaxO66dckvOdyM4rt9qll8j1B06L1mHU8InIV a7DjGSRhRXkW30vHoDy08PTzbRul8ojxY6AiJF9EVDfBKDvZ5/tVVjNDIhC73VRl2xvZ Kq87VyJBJTBUcpAoiaF9vrRW8neJMSEXekTMTY14TynbpNq1iK8Fntqy9KAby6leQDCq nfNA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.236.103 with SMTP id ut7mr1819301pbc.118.1380711244302; Wed, 02 Oct 2013 03:54:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <7wioxgsl1t.fsf@benfinney.id.au> <524BBD33.1060601@rece.vub.ac.be> <524bcb71$0$2865$c3e8da3$76491128@news.astraweb.com> Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2013 20:54:04 +1000 Subject: Re: JUST GOT HACKED From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 20 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1380711252 news.xs4all.nl 15984 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:33655 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:55306 On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 8:43 PM, =CD=DF=EA=EF=F2 wro= te: > Just bare with me and you will see improving over time. Tip: Start with this one... the word you want is 'bear'. In English, those two words have very different meanings, even though they're pronounced the same way; "bare with me" actually talks about getting naked, whereas "bear with me" means what you think it does. :) I'm quite okay with you improving over time, I'm even okay with it happening slowly. And I think everyone here would agree with me on that. But that's why I think you should code only as a hobby, because that means you're not disrupting anything while you learn. It's the safe option. It's like learning to drive a car out in the back paddock (field, for you non-Australians) - there's nobody else to get hurt, worst you can do is bang the car up a bit... and chances are it's an old beat-up car anyway, so that's not a big deal. You don't learn to drive by hopping into a taxi and collecting fares. ChrisA