Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!feeder.news-service.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.011 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:: [': 0.03; 'python.': 0.05; '(possibly': 0.09; 'correctness': 0.09; 'lately': 0.09; 'to:name:python list': 0.09; 'pm,': 0.11; 'programmer': 0.11; '>>>': 0.12; 'wrote:': 0.14; 'finney': 0.16; 'put.': 0.16; 'subject:Namespaces': 0.16; 'subject:classes': 0.16; 'subject:was': 0.16; 'subject:] ': 0.16; 'unknown': 0.19; 'tue,': 0.20; 'to:2**1': 0.20; 'language': 0.20; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.22; 'help,': 0.22; 'generous': 0.23; 'sfxlen:0': 0.23; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.28; 'chair': 0.29; 'yet': 0.30; 'recall': 0.31; 'second': 0.31; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.32; "i've": 0.33; 'with.': 0.33; 'month.': 0.35; 'received:209.85.216.46': 0.35; 'received:mail-qw0-f46.google.com': 0.35; 'year.': 0.36; 'enough': 0.37; 'should': 0.37; 'received:209.85': 0.37; 'apr': 0.38; 'received:google.com': 0.38; 'but': 0.38; 'end': 0.39; 'under': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'where': 0.39; 'subject: (': 0.39; 'received:209': 0.39; "it's": 0.40; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'respect': 0.60; 'charset:windows-1252': 0.61; '2011': 0.62; 'articles': 0.67; 'supply': 0.68; 'lost': 0.71; 'url:htm': 0.72; '$50': 0.84; '02:59': 0.84; 'beneath': 0.84; 'wondered,': 0.84; 'from.': 0.93 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=8q9JVk3+VVaFG9B3FiPMYd1kD6VIT8dF8aXfrhMYRjw=; b=T3OKPgHEJwGCEo/RQo4WsM4U826Q0hu9Zaa2Gm+EAE3IlxcRxJLD1ntTJnqT6mFOoB 3KHoYJ0Pb/lZNPQhYcT3+GLJtpeewpHdJjgxmaaYp2wggkCZZsZ4kjhP5YAYkZkAHm7H tfH9qXhc++4rDnFtSatH6tkBTUAkVMW42JJVk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Mlz0umAFQ+KFJdQMQuNICCGz6GqfwZ1FhKmCSvZrAvt/+ZCGyZ7FkwiIlerYmkbbGh 1LfrjDCvYKFBhmLiwcZDIFwnieQKRWX+apgpLBNUZFpzLkn4hPfJbXkOH2nQc0uWtyRG toxXXwI59gTlTRSk1AWUP98P4YcLCDB4t2Hg4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4DAE49AC.5080706@ieee.org> References: <87hb9terpt.fsf_-_@benfinney.id.au> <4DAE49AC.5080706@ieee.org> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 20:59:02 -0700 Subject: Re: [OT] Piling of prepositions (was: Namespaces in functions vs classes) From: geremy condra To: davea@ieee.org, Python List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 38 NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.94.164.166 X-Trace: 1303271947 news.xs4all.nl 81476 [::ffff:82.94.164.166]:53525 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:3645 On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 7:49 PM, Dave Angel wrote: > On 01/-10/-28163 02:59 PM, Ben Finney wrote: >> >> "Rhodri James" =A0writes: >> >>> Language abuse: it's not just Python. A donation of just $5 will keep >>> a programmer in prepositions for a month. $50 will supply enough >>> articles to keep a small company understandable for over a year. With >>> your generous help, we can beat this scourge! >> >> I lately lost a preposition >> It hid, I thought, beneath my chair >> And angrily I cried, =93Perdition! >> Up from out of in under there.=94 >> >> Correctness is my vade mecum, >> And straggling phrases I abhor, >> And yet I wondered, =93What should he come >> Up from out of in under for?=94 >> >> =97Morris Bishop, in the _New Yorker_, 1947-09-27 >> >> >> > > Ending a sentence with a preposition is one aberration up with which I wi= ll > not put. > > With is a lousy word to start or end a sentence with. > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 origins unknown With respect to the first, it is (possibly mis)attributed to Winston Churchill. The second I've heard but don't recall where from. Geremy Condra