Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder1.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder.news-service.com!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.051 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.90; '*S*': 0.00; 'tab': 0.07; 'called.': 0.09; 'top-level': 0.09; 'am,': 0.13; 'gui': 0.13; 'wrote:': 0.15; 'created;': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'rantingrick': 0.16; 'workings': 0.16; 'case.': 0.16; 'avoiding': 0.19; 'received:209.85.210.174': 0.19; 'received :mail-iy0-f174.google.com': 0.19; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.22; 'tue,': 0.23; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.28; 'not.': 0.30; '5:30': 0.30; 'lock': 0.30; 'actually': 0.33; 'to:addr:python- list': 0.34; 'there': 0.34; 'quite': 0.34; 'things': 0.34; 'identical': 0.35; 'question': 0.35; 'page': 0.36; 'claimed': 0.37; 'but': 0.37; 'received:google.com': 0.38; 'received:209.85': 0.38; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'should': 0.39; "there's": 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:209': 0.40; 'called': 0.40; 'where': 0.40; 'die': 0.61; 'benefit': 0.66; 'subject:!': 0.67; 'design.': 0.73; 'browsing': 0.77; 'notebook': 0.77; 'chrome': 0.84; 'dies.': 0.84; 'jargon.': 0.84; 'cope': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=p/1nYvfKffSijGKpkFz0nAvjfwhgEaF2O4WnMSlCkp4=; b=hucI/fZdXnpqT8gsVXlpqcuML765iKiPlSo66HWByyxp9c+KNcdkB8/bM9naXl3QEg CfyVnwPfecg8CSUUpCGVHSkc9k8Hp4/KIbNFNX0hMFxjXph9fC1wbKEll9ukG6eLp5wf qPTpu57/wS0N4iMg1YbA5WJxKtZ36S3QMlVFg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <0749620a-f405-4b06-a096-7211df0d5fcc@q5g2000yqj.googlegroups.com> References: <97dc7iF9eiU1@mid.individual.net> <78624344-9696-42c9-9ed8-9454c55c1d9f@g12g2000yqd.googlegroups.com> <0749620a-f405-4b06-a096-7211df0d5fcc@q5g2000yqj.googlegroups.com> Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 07:43:55 +1000 Subject: Re: Implicit initialization is EVIL! From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 25 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1309815839 news.xs4all.nl 21823 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:54433 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:8796 On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 5:30 AM, rantingrick wrote: > Umm, if you want to see where things are "going" you should learn > about the inner workings of chrome which actually spawns a new process > for every tab created; which has the benefit of avoiding application > lock up when one page decides to crash. There is still one application. There's a single process which is the master; all the other processes die if the master dies. Chrome's isolation of tab-groups has nothing to do with the GUI design question of whether one top-level window is allowed to do more than one thing, which you claimed it should not. >> How would you write a >> user-friendly picker that can cope with myriad instances of >> everything? > > psst: it's called a notebook in GUI jargon. Again, study up on chrome > internals. No, that would not be what it would be called. Also, a notebook is a very specific widget, and it's not quite identical to Chrome's or Firefox's tabbed browsing setup; but again, that has nothing to do with the case. The question is one of UI design. ChrisA