Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.freenet.ag!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.024 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.95; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'think,': 0.07; 'latter': 0.09; 'subject:question': 0.10; '"an': 0.16; '22:50,': 0.16; 'from:addr:mrabarnett.plus.com': 0.16; 'from:addr:python': 0.16; 'from:name:mrab': 0.16; 'message- id:@mrabarnett.plus.com': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'written,': 0.19; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'looks': 0.24; 'question': 0.24; 'possibly': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'chris': 0.29; 'but': 0.35; 'ordered': 0.36; 'being': 0.38; 'form,': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'short': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'read': 0.60; 'experts': 0.60; 'name': 0.63; 'talking': 0.65; 'header:Reply-To:1': 0.67; 'reply-to:no real name:2**0': 0.71; 'qualified': 0.72; 'reply-to:addr:python.org': 0.84 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=f6aW8pOM c=1 sm=1 a=0nF1XD0wxitMEM03M9B4ZQ==:17 a=QUiRZEtCktgA:10 a=KS07WhallcQA:10 a=ihvODaAuJD4A:10 a=OUOv7kDek9cA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=8AHkEIZyAAAA:8 a=kw-qpZKZLlQA:10 a=YKh2Nz83rg9ezqMk9UEA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=0nF1XD0wxitMEM03M9B4ZQ==:117 X-AUTH: mrabarnett:2500 Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 00:11:37 +0100 From: MRAB User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130328 Thunderbird/17.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: Grammar question: Englisn and Python: qualified names References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: python-list@python.org List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 16 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1365981104 news.xs4all.nl 2605 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:35056 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:43585 On 14/04/2013 22:50, Chris Angelico wrote: > Quirky question time! > > When you read out a qualified name, eg collections.OrderedDict, do you > read the qualifier ("collections dot ordered dict"), or do you elide > it ("ordered dict")? I ask because it makes a difference to talking > about just one of them: > > ... or possibly a collections.OrderedDict... > ... or possibly an collections.OrderedDict... > > Written, the latter looks completely wrong; but if the name is read in > its short form, with the "collections" part being implicit, then "an" > is clearly correct! What do you think, experts and others? > I read what's there: "a collections.OrderedDict" vs "an OrderedDict".