Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.039 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.92; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'think,': 0.07; 'latter': 0.09; 'subject:question': 0.10; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'written,': 0.19; 'looks': 0.24; 'question': 0.24; 'possibly': 0.26; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'ordered': 0.36; 'being': 0.38; 'form,': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'short': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'read': 0.60; 'experts': 0.60; 'name': 0.63; 'talking': 0.65; 'qualified': 0.72 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=TIflixFH2TqAzOz2UONm3Vrd+5WqQ4FHk/rFsMhEi5A=; b=YGNCSoiEy7BvunsEc5x6YHhDMVeYPuQHMZ9TeK8RZiXnXEfCd43EcaOwUPv8SWuX+t b/6ZYimvVXETjEI8JWnrQJH3DLCgSlWVsYuY8DKt6TpTA152rohn0JaNRBpY2fSU+dqM Z9nUJxVBHeN4mi1Ff3iuypzVjmT/tO1l4cI975mFlOdtOhvlj1CfU1+hjled+JaaBFdz lGLu8ftIz1ulodKGxxlHgsliSTNw/wJRO3GC1ermOHBlKXC8TUBVNWhpUuCGQXSsFLaK WN0ukUEt2uOsEHXyaZHo0sCAZeYKGNoQkIkwPWB5cU0qWUiiZQq6CfOBNZYLqIL3kh2d 2eng== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.58.15.193 with SMTP id z1mr14395198vec.40.1365976221721; Sun, 14 Apr 2013 14:50:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 07:50:21 +1000 Subject: Grammar question: Englisn and Python: qualified names From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 15 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1365976228 news.xs4all.nl 2583 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:52924 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:43583 Quirky question time! When you read out a qualified name, eg collections.OrderedDict, do you read the qualifier ("collections dot ordered dict"), or do you elide it ("ordered dict")? I ask because it makes a difference to talking about just one of them: ... or possibly a collections.OrderedDict... ... or possibly an collections.OrderedDict... Written, the latter looks completely wrong; but if the name is read in its short form, with the "collections" part being implicit, then "an" is clearly correct! What do you think, experts and others? ChrisA