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On 16/05/2015 03:51, Rustom Mody wrote:
> On Saturday, May 16, 2015 at 6:54:23 AM UTC+5:30, Ned Batchelder wrote:
>> On Friday, May 15, 2015 at 8:57:53 PM UTC-4, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>>> On Sat, 16 May 2015 05:41 am, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>>>
>>>> Cecil Westerhof wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> While playing with recursion I get:
>>>>>      RuntimeError: maximum recursion depth exceeded in comparison
>>>>>
>>>>> But then I get a very long stack trace. Is there a way to make this a
>>>>> lot shorter. Now I 'lose' interesting information because of the length
>>>>> of the stack trace.
>>>>
>>>> <http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html>
>>>
>>> There ought to be a website that explains how to give smart answers.
>>
>> Or one that explains how to be kind to those that don't know
>> the ropes yet.  Though pointing impatient experts at a
>> website probably won't get them to change any more than
>> brusquely pointing newbs at a website will.
>
> How about a 'answerer-quota' 😇 ?
>
> « Once for every 20 useful answers you are allowed to vent on any subject of
>    your choice...
>
>    - Stupid questions (and point to catb's smart questions)
>    - Google groups
>    - Top posting
>    - Html mail
>

Blatant discrimination against people who live in Mudeford, which of 
course straddles the mighty River Mude.

-- 
My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask
what you can do for our language.

Mark Lawrence