Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed7.news.xs4all.nl!nzpost1.xs4all.net!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'filename': 0.07; 'properly.': 0.07; 'subject:file': 0.07; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.09; 'creighton': 0.09; 'descriptor': 0.09; 'received:openend.se': 0.09; 'received:theraft.openend.se': 0.09; 'subject:files': 0.09; '>on': 0.16; 'cc:addr:lac': 0.16; 'cc:addr:openend.se': 0.16; 'did.': 0.16; 'from:addr:lac': 0.16; 'from:addr:openend.se': 0.16; 'from:name:laura creighton': 0.16; 'message-id:@fido.openend.se': 0.16; 'received:fido': 0.16; 'received:fido.openend.se': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'later': 0.16; 'laura': 0.18; '2015': 0.20; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.20; 'cc:2**1': 0.22; 'meant': 0.22; 'saying': 0.22; 'affects': 0.22; 'sep': 0.22; 'file.': 0.22; 'tired': 0.27; 'received:se': 0.29; 'cc:no real name:2**1': 0.29; 'somebody': 0.30; 'open': 0.33; 'tue,': 0.34; 'file': 0.34; 'running': 0.34; 'could': 0.35; 'replaced': 0.35; "isn't": 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'closing': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'being': 0.37; 'say': 0.37; 'charset:us- ascii': 0.37; 'things': 0.38; 'thank': 0.38; 'files': 0.38; 'subject:-': 0.39; 'still': 0.40; 'some': 0.40; 'header:Message- Id:1': 0.61; 'you.': 0.64; 'between': 0.65; 'header:In-reply- to:1': 0.84; 'open,': 0.84; 'edwards': 0.91 To: Grant Edwards cc: python-list@python.org, lac@openend.se From: Laura Creighton Subject: Re: Low level file descriptors and high-level Python files In-reply-to: References: <55e5bcd3$0$1639$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Comments: In-reply-to Grant Edwards message dated "Tue, 01 Sep 2015 22:19:15 -0000." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <24930.1441177344.1@fido> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2015 09:02:24 +0200 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.3.9 (theraft.openend.se [82.96.5.2]); Wed, 02 Sep 2015 09:02:27 +0200 (CEST) X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 28 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1441177351 news.xs4all.nl 23753 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:41990 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:95855 In a message of Tue, 01 Sep 2015 22:19:15 -0000, Grant Edwards writes: >On 2015-09-01, Laura Creighton wrote: > >> Don't go around closing things you don't know are open. They >> could be some other processes' thing. > >I don't understand. Closing a file descriptor that isn't open is >harmless, isn't it? Closing one that _is_ open only affects the >current process. If other processes had the same fd open, it's still >open for them. > >-- = >Grant Edwards grant.b.edwards Yow! FUN is never havi= ng to > at say you're SUSHI!! > gmail.com = This is me being tired and not saying things properly. What I meant was don't go around closing mkstemp files thinking you can reopen them later, because in between the time you use mkstemp to make the file and you open it up again later somebody else may have replaced that file. Including some other program running mkstemp which was desparate to make the exact s= ame filename you did. But that's not what I said ... so thank you. Laura