Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!xlned.com!feeder7.xlned.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: UNSURE 0.402 X-Spam-Level: **** X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.54; '*S*': 0.34; 'received:134': 0.05; "subject:' ": 0.07; 'subject:position': 0.09; 'charging': 0.16; 'elsewhere.': 0.16; 'for,': 0.16; 'subject: \n ': 0.16; 'subject:start': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'sort': 0.25; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'idea': 0.28; 'getting': 0.31; "d'aprano": 0.31; 'steven': 0.31; 'point.': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; '+0200,': 0.36; 'fees': 0.36; 'possible': 0.36; 'similar': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'contract': 0.38; 'bad': 0.39; 'subject:can': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'kind': 0.63; 'guaranteed': 0.75; '*no': 0.84; '99.9%': 0.84; 'beside': 0.84; 'off,': 0.84; 'pardon': 0.84; 'rip': 0.84; 'uptime': 0.84; 'dare': 0.91; 'hate': 0.91; 'lucky': 0.93; 'outcome': 0.93; '2013': 0.98 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aq0EAPDIS1KGuA9G/2dsb2JhbABYwTR3gnuBL4MZAQEEAXgGCwsYCRYPCQMCAQIBRRMIAod8BrNciROCW4x9FoQMA5d/hh+LW4FmgUA Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2013 09:23:03 +0200 From: Antoon Pardon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:10.0.12) Gecko/20130116 Icedove/10.0.12 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb6 in position 0: invalid start byte References: <5247f6bb$0$29988$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <524b78b8$0$29974$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> In-Reply-To: <524b78b8$0$29974$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 02 Oct 2013 09:54:46 +0200 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 25 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1380700487 news.xs4all.nl 15954 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:42870 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:55285 Op 02-10-13 03:36, Steven D'Aprano schreef: > On Tue, 01 Oct 2013 09:27:22 +0200, Antoon Pardon wrote: > >> People pay for some kind of guaranteed uptime. > > You have *no idea* what sort of contract Nikos has with his customers. > Nor do you know have any idea what fees he charges. For all we know, he > is promising, and charging for, 99% uptime while delivering 99.9% uptime. Which is beside the point. It is very well possible to rip someone of and in the mean time have a contract that makes ripping that person of, legal. It is also possible one behaves in a way similar as if ripping others off, but that your "victims" are lucky and don't experience a bad outcome (yet). > I know you are getting off on hating Nikos, but take it elsewhere. I know you are getting off insinuating hate of those who dare to critisize Nikos harshly, but take it elsewhere. -- Antoon Pardon