Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!xlned.com!feeder3.xlned.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.002 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'encoding': 0.05; '-*-': 0.07; 'suppose': 0.07; 'utf-8': 0.07; 'coding:': 0.09; 'exec': 0.09; 'falls': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; '2.7.2': 0.16; 'debian.': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:dip0.t-ipconnect.de': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'received:t-ipconnect.de': 0.16; 'unexpected': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'skip:p 40': 0.19; 'command': 0.22; '>>>': 0.22; 'print': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'error': 0.23; 'issue,': 0.24; 'unicode': 0.24; 'this:': 0.26; 'least': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'idea': 0.28; "i'm": 0.30; 'code': 0.31; "skip:' 10": 0.31; 'usually': 0.31; '>>>>': 0.31; "d'aprano": 0.31; 'occurs': 0.31; 'python2.7': 0.31; 'steven': 0.31; 'anyone': 0.31; 'probably': 0.32; 'guess': 0.33; "i'd": 0.34; 'display': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'really': 0.36; '8bit%:80': 0.36; 'two': 0.37; '8bit%:86': 0.38; 'hat': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'issue': 0.38; 'track': 0.38; 'bad': 0.39; 'sure': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'skip:u 10': 0.60; 'lost': 0.61; 'back': 0.62; 'more': 0.64; 'different': 0.65; 'here': 0.66; '8bit%:100': 0.72; 'subject:this': 0.83; 'replicate': 0.84; 'start.': 0.84; 'on?': 0.91 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Peter Otten <__peter__@web.de> Subject: Re: Trying to understand this moji-bake Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 09:56:09 +0100 Organization: None References: <52e33f8d$0$29999$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p5084bd22.dip0.t-ipconnect.de User-Agent: KNode/4.7.3 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 49 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1390640181 news.xs4all.nl 2868 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:37545 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:64733 Steven D'Aprano wrote: > I have an unexpected display error when dealing with Unicode strings, and > I cannot understand where the error is occurring. I suspect it's not > actually a Python issue, but I thought I'd ask here to start. I suppose it is a Python issue -- where Python fails to guess an encoding it usually falls back to ascii. > But using Python 2.7, I get a really bad case of moji-bake: > > [steve@ando ~]$ python2.7 -c "print u'ñøλπйж'" > ñøλÏйж > > > However, interactively it works fine: > > [steve@ando ~]$ python2.7 -E > Python 2.7.2 (default, May 18 2012, 18:25:10) > [GCC 4.1.2 20080704 (Red Hat 4.1.2-52)] on linux2 > Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. >>>> print u'ñøλπйж' > ñøλπйж You can provoke it with exec: >>> exec "print u'ñøλπйж'" ñøλÏйж >>> exec u"print u'ñøλπйж'" ñøλπйж >>> exec "# -*- coding: utf-8 -*-\nprint u'ñøλπйж'" ñøλπйж > This occurs on at least two different machines, one using Centos and the > other Debian. > > Anyone have any idea what's going on? I can replicate the display error > using Python 3 like this: > > py> s = 'ñøλπйж' > py> print(s.encode('utf-8').decode('latin-1')) > ñøλÏйж > > but I'm not sure why it's happening at the command line. Anyone have any > ideas? It is probably burried in the C code -- after a few indirections I lost track :(