Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.006 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'mrab': 0.05; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'explanation': 0.09; 'happen.': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'jan': 0.12; "wouldn't": 0.14; '"real"': 0.16; '(ones': 0.16; '24,': 0.16; '[2].': 0.16; 'gonna': 0.16; 'notation': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'roy': 0.16; 'violated': 0.16; 'sat,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'discussion': 0.18; '(where': 0.19; 'things.': 0.19; '>>>': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'math': 0.24; 'looks': 0.24; "i've": 0.25; 'suggested': 0.26; 'header:X -Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'tried': 0.27; 'chris': 0.29; '[1]': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; '[2]': 0.30; 'involving': 0.30; 'getting': 0.31; 'that.': 0.31; 'url:wiki': 0.31; '25,': 0.31; '>>>>': 0.31; 'url:wikipedia': 0.31; 'figure': 0.32; 'another': 0.32; 'fri,': 0.33; 'case,': 0.35; 'etc': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'version': 0.36; "didn't": 0.36; "i'll": 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'represent': 0.38; 'to:addr:python- list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'explain': 0.39; 'quote': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'mentioned': 0.61; 'numbers': 0.61; 'received:173': 0.61; "you're": 0.61; 'back': 0.62; 'subject:The': 0.64; 'more': 0.64; 'situation': 0.65; 'detail.': 0.68; 'feeling': 0.68; 'smith': 0.68; 'funny': 0.74; 'article': 0.77; 'etc),': 0.84; 'imagining': 0.84; 'received:fios.verizon.net': 0.84; 'url:php': 0.85; 'edwards': 0.91; 'sorry.': 0.91 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Terry Reedy Subject: Re: The potential for a Python 2.8. Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 12:17:33 -0500 References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-75-254-207.phlapa.fios.verizon.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 44 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1390583867 news.xs4all.nl 2888 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:34092 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:64696 On 1/24/2014 10:57 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 2:36 AM, Grant Edwards wrote: >> On 2014-01-24, Roy Smith wrote: >>> In article , >>> Chris Angelico wrote: >>> >>>> On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Roy Smith wrote: >>>>>> Python 2.8j? >>>>> >>>>> You're imagining things. >>>> >>>> Get real... s'not gonna happen. >>>> >>> I wouldn't bet on that. The situation keeps getting tensor and >>> tensor. >> >> I have a feeling there's a pun there based on the worlds "real" and >> "tensor", but I don't have the math skills required to figure it out. > > MRAB suggested "2.8j", which looks like another system of version > number (where you go 2.8, then 2.8a, 2.8b, etc etc), but is a pun on > the notation for imaginary/complex numbers. Hence Roy said "imagining" > things. I tried to call him back to "real" numbers (ones that don't > involve the letter j), and Roy remarked in a way that mentioned > tensors [1], which can represent complex numbers, but I've never dug > into all that myself, so I'll let him explain in more detail. I then > said (though you didn't quote me) that this was a "rational" > discussion until I suggested a version number involving e, which is > an irrational number (2.71828...), as is sqrt(8) which I also > mentioned at the same time (2.8284...). > > I just violated [2]. Sorry. > > ChrisA > > [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tensor > [2] http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DontExplainTheJoke In this case, the explanation is as funny as the joke. -- Terry Jan Reedy