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From: Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: JUST GOT HACKED
Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2013 08:32:01 +0100
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On 02/10/2013 07:51, Antoon Pardon wrote:
> Op 02-10-13 04:30, Steven D'Aprano schreef:
>> On Wed, 02 Oct 2013 00:24:35 +1000, Daniel Stojanov wrote:
>>
>>> 2) I just signed up the this mailing list. To the regulars, is this what
>>> normally happens on this list?
>>
>> No.
>>
>>> 3) I'm a bit late to the party. Is Nikos a real sysadmin or is this some
>>> horrible inside joke I don't get?
>>
>> Nikos is not a real sysadmin. He is a wanna-be web developer who barely
>> knows Python. He is arrogant and annoying. Unfortunately he is not the
>> real problem here. The real problem is a bunch of vigilantes have
>> appointed themselves the anti-Nikos lynch mob and take every opportunity
>> they can to mock him, insult him, bait him into responding to their
>> taunts, and even make public death threats against him. And now it
>> appears that one of them may have hacked into his web site in an attempt
>> to put him out of business.
>
> That is your slant of things. My take is that the real problem is those
> that keep spoon feeding the help vampire, collaborating to the nuissance
> and encouraging Nikos to come back.
>
>> These vigilantes have decided to save this mailing list from Nikos, even
>> if it means destroying it. Nikos at least does ask Python questions. The
>> vigilantes hardly talk about Python at all, they're too busy laughing at
>> Nikos and insulting him. Nikos doesn't learn from his errors; neither do
>> the vigilantes, no matter how many times they have failed they are sure
>> that if they mock him just a little bit harder he will go away. He won't,
>> they keep baiting him even more, and this place is going to shit thanks
>> to them.
>
> Maybe the people venting their frustration think the mailing list is
> already partly gone to shit. So why should they care it is going to shit
> too for those who collaborate to the nuisance. The latter didn't care
> much the mailing list was going to shit for the first. The latter only
> started to care about the shit level when they themselves though it
> became too high for them. And then they complain about those venting
> their frustration but they won't look at how their own behaviour
> contributes to the frustration of those venting.
>

No guessing which camp I'm in.

-- 
Cheers.

Mark Lawrence