Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!dedibox.gegeweb.org!gegeweb.eu!nntpfeed.proxad.net!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!usenet-fr.net!nerim.net!novso.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.016 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.97; '*S*': 0.00; 'mrab': 0.05; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'happen.': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'python': 0.11; 'jan': 0.12; "wouldn't": 0.14; '"real"': 0.16; '(ones': 0.16; '24,': 0.16; '[2].': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'gonna': 0.16; 'notation': 0.16; 'roy': 0.16; 'violated': 0.16; 'sat,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'discussion': 0.18; '(where': 0.19; 'things.': 0.19; '>>>': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'math': 0.24; 'looks': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; "i've": 0.25; 'suggested': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'tried': 0.27; 'chris': 0.29; '[1]': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; '[2]': 0.30; 'involving': 0.30; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'getting': 0.31; 'that.': 0.31; 'url:wiki': 0.31; '25,': 0.31; 'url:wikipedia': 0.31; 'figure': 0.32; 'another': 0.32; 'fri,': 0.33; 'etc': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'version': 0.36; "didn't": 0.36; "i'll": 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'represent': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'explain': 0.39; 'quote': 0.39; 'mentioned': 0.61; 'numbers': 0.61; "you're": 0.61; 'back': 0.62; 'subject:The': 0.64; 'more': 0.64; 'situation': 0.65; 'detail.': 0.68; 'feeling': 0.68; 'smith': 0.68; 'article': 0.77; 'etc),': 0.84; 'imagining': 0.84; 'url:php': 0.85; 'edwards': 0.91; 'sorry.': 0.91; 'to:none': 0.92 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=QyWwHJtetyTsMBfrha3hMWONOWNSY4sqCFZPBdhyvlU=; b=AMa5bKdqE+fN4WpKiBxh5mM/x7EbO+pVHBwQi/TpdfrSRgfV/JjdBKwHpZR31JYXYD Kp+WHJJbC28nQCgJ0cDXX+u1ImY7UesAC3gz3hllrlYHThu8x/CYYgOtxMNyqOXbcV3W fbaJwNheWh4J/22pZI+UzKzTdX6Bjtka8ge6LTXX4/q+F30N6e9RGsuEHCRTAqSYJXkY FJemoSUeXre8cjrDwmeZOJmf65gr9Yce0qpKNTGB8R6eyPY6t6Ug9CMdmfNQTOA4IK7i GMBjMKN230Q4TMotLP0pwhKjRwhvtgumPNKn5PeX6Ny9J0Jyr5uwW4KJiVfDg186Tfn8 BZxw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.162.66 with SMTP id xy2mr15315715pbb.46.1390579055894; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 07:57:35 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 02:57:35 +1100 Subject: Re: The potential for a Python 2.8. From: Chris Angelico Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 36 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1390579058 news.xs4all.nl 2885 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:35650 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:64690 On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 2:36 AM, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2014-01-24, Roy Smith wrote: >> In article , >> Chris Angelico wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Roy Smith wrote: >>> >> Python 2.8j? >>> > >>> > You're imagining things. >>> >>> Get real... s'not gonna happen. >>> >> I wouldn't bet on that. The situation keeps getting tensor and >> tensor. > > I have a feeling there's a pun there based on the worlds "real" and > "tensor", but I don't have the math skills required to figure it out. MRAB suggested "2.8j", which looks like another system of version number (where you go 2.8, then 2.8a, 2.8b, etc etc), but is a pun on the notation for imaginary/complex numbers. Hence Roy said "imagining" things. I tried to call him back to "real" numbers (ones that don't involve the letter j), and Roy remarked in a way that mentioned tensors [1], which can represent complex numbers, but I've never dug into all that myself, so I'll let him explain in more detail. I then said (though you didn't quote me) that this was a "rational" discussion until I suggested a version number involving e, which is an irrational number (2.71828...), as is sqrt(8) which I also mentioned at the same time (2.8284...). I just violated [2]. Sorry. ChrisA [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tensor [2] http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DontExplainTheJoke