Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!dedibox.gegeweb.org!gegeweb.eu!nntpfeed.proxad.net!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!usenet-fr.net!nerim.net!novso.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'python,': 0.02; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'incompatible': 0.07; 'versions,': 0.07; "'no": 0.09; "'python": 0.09; 'mess': 0.09; "people's": 0.09; 'pep': 0.09; 'semantic': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'jan': 0.12; '2.7': 0.14; "wouldn't": 0.14; '(which,': 0.16; '11:42': 0.16; '24,': 0.16; 'formally': 0.16; 'from:addr:mrabarnett.plus.com': 0.16; 'from:addr:python': 0.16; 'from:name:mrab': 0.16; 'message- id:@mrabarnett.plus.com': 0.16; 'received:192.168.1.4': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'code.': 0.18; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.23; 'please?': 0.24; 'visible': 0.24; 'java': 0.24; 'developers': 0.25; 'least': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'idea': 0.28; 'chris': 0.29; '[1]': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; "doesn't": 0.30; 'announcement': 0.30; 'cool': 0.30; 'moved': 0.30; 'newer': 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; 'code': 0.31; 'that.': 0.31; 'about.': 0.31; 'compatible': 0.32; 'run': 0.32; 'everyone': 0.33; 'fri,': 0.33; 'knows': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'version': 0.36; 'effort': 0.37; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'that,': 0.38; 'sure': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'enough': 0.39; 'called': 0.40; 'even': 0.60; 'new': 0.61; 'kind': 0.63; 'subject:The': 0.64; 'talking': 0.65; 'believe': 0.68; 'glad': 0.83; '2.8': 0.84; 'actually,': 0.84; 'odds': 0.84 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=CfYxutbl c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=0nF1XD0wxitMEM03M9B4ZQ==:117 a=0nF1XD0wxitMEM03M9B4ZQ==:17 a=0Bzu9jTXAAAA:8 a=5FYZ9MsUIQAA:10 a=xpyqq-ojFn8A:10 a=ihvODaAuJD4A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=FNBDKA8H7_0A:10 a=RWiwbtkpaMqJSpr1eYAA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 X-AUTH: mrabarnett:2500 Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 02:05:39 +0000 From: MRAB User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: The potential for a Python 2.8. References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 26 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1390529147 news.xs4all.nl 2831 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:58332 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:64654 On 2014-01-24 01:00, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Terry Reedy wrote: >> Burying 'Python 2.8' was the purpose of PEP 404. It is kind of bizarre. >> Developers informally said 'No 2.8'. People would not believe that. So >> developers formally said 'No 2.8'. They even inverted the purpose of PEP to >> make the formal announcement visible and permanent. And a few people still >> do not want to believe it. > > Can I get a new version of Java 1.1.8 please? I want it to include all > the cool features that I want from the newer versions, but it has to > still run all my existing code. I'm not going to put in any effort to > actually _make_ this, I want you to do it for me. > > Actually, the Java versioning system was enough of a mess that, to > this day, I don't know what version(s) my old Java code would and > wouldn't run on. So glad to have moved away from that. At least with > Python, semantic versioning [1] means everyone knows what everyone's > talking about. Python 2.8 has to be broadly compatible with 2.7 and > doesn't have to be compatible with 3.3. (Which, incidentally, is at > odds with some people's idea of a 2.8, which would be incompatible > with both. I'm not sure what that would be called - e.1? sqrt(8).0? > Something else?) > [snip] Python 2.8j?