Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.081 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.84; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'used.': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'python': 0.11; 'jan': 0.12; "wouldn't": 0.14; '24,': 0.16; 'debian.': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; "ubuntu's": 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'meant': 0.20; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'recognize': 0.24; 'sorry,': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'least': 0.26; 'asking': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply- To:1': 0.27; 'chris': 0.29; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'along': 0.30; 'that.': 0.31; 'too.': 0.31; 'bunch': 0.31; 'python.org': 0.32; 'fri,': 0.33; 'maybe': 0.34; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'version': 0.36; 'next': 0.36; 'possible': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'ends': 0.38; 'mine': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'support,': 0.39; 'users': 0.40; 'major': 0.40; 'expression': 0.60; 'subject:The': 0.64; 'become': 0.64; 'between': 0.67; 'stated': 0.69; 'soon.': 0.71; 'repeat': 0.74; '2.8': 0.84; 'etc,': 0.84; 'noise': 0.84; 'off"': 0.84; 'presumably': 0.84; 'python-dev': 0.84; 'renewals,': 0.84; 'to:none': 0.92 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=UEsq9KKWEBjsJfeAZUFA8bEmjV6X7AQv9Cd3GIdNvFA=; b=vwZsnX7EJ6BgU9R+o0licr64wG9yKpzDIAnmZf+PCOopmDlYvRy9g6XKiUheNa+AYa s10g48kx1T+S9G8Gr59vCJEhBTLJRO0zyELbdYsqbweDtbDmXCYx3KTPAoigRDq7fCYN Ftd+dU2dWW5oRcoyDxkQceKrInURBSSzYDl4QHQqPgnKs9ORJRPkOVOYuJ2SN9DSG0Zg ZkYhhPlSH+SXepWcdUKksbiXt3Uf1e+RenxF1js2i/xK+TBdY7HX+VZUC5IFiQWXXsvr X76Dzpbht7D7wk6vibvNb0IiRdJ61xQFw+rVx5GF/2Q+BvjeyxdAyxnd6aqeKlvRj2sM I8Bg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.66.26.176 with SMTP id m16mr11223516pag.142.1390526189552; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 17:16:29 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 12:16:29 +1100 Subject: Re: The potential for a Python 2.8. From: Chris Angelico Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 30 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1390526199 news.xs4all.nl 2830 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:48050 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:64651 On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: > On 1/23/2014 8:00 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: > >> The noise asking for a 2.8 isn't going to die down any time soon. > > I suspect you meant "isn't going to die completely" Sorry, yeah. "die off" is the expression I should have used. Presumably it *will* die down in between the renewals, otherwise we wouldn't recognize the renewals. >> It'll flare up again every time there's a significant event in the >> 2.7's end of life: when it goes into source-only support, when its >> python.org support ends entirely, when Debian's next version won't >> ship it, when Red Hat's ditto ditto, when it's no longer possible to >> get it from Ubuntu's repositories, etc, etc, etc. And no amount of >> "There will be no 2.8 unless you make it yourself!" will change that. >> >> That's my prediction. > > Sadly, mine too. Maybe the flareup peaks will gradually become lower. Or > maybe they will not be discussed so much on python-list. Maybe. I suspect that python-list and/or python-dev will see at least some of the traffic, though - when (say) Debian-next is stated as no longer shipping with any Python 2.7, there'll be a bunch of Debian users coming along asking why there won't be a 2.8, and repeat for any other major distribution in place of Debian. ChrisA