Path: csiph.com!au2pb.net!feeder.erje.net!1.eu.feeder.erje.net!bcyclone01.am1.xlned.com!bcyclone01.am1.xlned.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed7.news.xs4all.nl!nzpost1.xs4all.net!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.022 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.96; '*S*': 0.00; 'anyway.': 0.04; 'mentioned,': 0.07; 'turtle': 0.07; 'subject:help': 0.07; 'formatted': 0.09; 'imports': 0.09; 'machines.': 0.09; 'python.': 0.11; 'files.': 0.13; 'from:addr:torriem': 0.16; 'from:name:michael torrie': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'subject:need': 0.18; 'file.': 0.22; 'am,': 0.23; 'seems': 0.23; "python's": 0.23; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'tech': 0.27; 'help!': 0.30; 'problem': 0.33; 'message-id:@gmail.com': 0.34; 'file': 0.34; 'happened': 0.35; 'saved': 0.35; 'to:addr :python-list': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'being': 0.37; 'received:org': 0.37; 'thank': 0.38; 'received:192': 0.39; 'rather': 0.39; 'well.': 0.40; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'where': 0.40; 'save': 0.60; 'your': 0.60; 'charset:windows-1252': 0.62; 'matter': 0.63; 'saving': 0.70; 'confusing': 0.84; 'everything,': 0.84; 'pain': 0.84; 'wow': 0.84; 'shadow': 0.91; 'suffering': 0.93 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at torriefamily.org Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 11:39:34 -0600 From: Michael Torrie User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: teacher need help! References: <5623397C.40205@timgolden.me.uk> , <5624AC43.3080105@timgolden.me.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 18 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1445362792 news.xs4all.nl 23854 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:39326 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl X-Received-Bytes: 3835 X-Received-Body-CRC: 1992759051 Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:97840 On 10/20/2015 10:25 AM, Storey, Geneva wrote: > FYI-We formatted the machines, reinstalling everything, including > Python. I works with no problems now. Confusing that this would > happen on 3 out of 13 machines. Just letting you know, all is well. > Thank you for your help! Geneva Wow that seems rather drastic. Your tech never found the errant turtle.py files? If this problem happened before, it's bound to happen again, and like has been mentioned, the problem is simply a matter of a student's "turtle.py" file being saved to a place where it interferes with Python's own turtle.py file. In fact I would recommend you encourage your students to not use the name "turtle.py" when saving files. Even one in the same directory as a file that imports turtle will shadow the system one. Will save you pain and suffering anyway.