Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!selfless.tophat.at!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.004 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:module': 0.04; 'francis': 0.07; 'erik': 0.09; 'top-level': 0.09; 'pm,': 0.10; 'wrote:': 0.14; '"in"': 0.16; 'objection': 0.16; '16,': 0.16; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.17; 'continuing': 0.17; 'obviously': 0.17; 'keyword': 0.19; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.21; 'thu,': 0.22; 'cc:2**0': 0.22; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.23; '\xa0so': 0.23; 'received:209.85.161.46': 0.23; 'received:mail- fx0-f46.google.com': 0.23; '(or': 0.24; 'code': 0.24; 'received:209.85.161': 0.26; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.28; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.30; 'module': 0.30; 'differently': 0.30; 'stronger': 0.30; 'usage': 0.32; 'adds': 0.32; 'proposed': 0.32; 'rather': 0.34; 'breaking': 0.35; 'module.': 0.35; 'not,': 0.35; 'using': 0.35; 'idea': 0.36; 'received:google.com': 0.37; 'received:209.85': 0.37; 'keywords': 0.37; 'two': 0.37; 'think': 0.38; 'third': 0.38; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'received:209': 0.39; 'really': 0.40; '10:24': 0.84; 'blocks.': 0.84; 'proposal,': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=T/Ujd/mk6Dv/IHss/JlE9ZDNNEfQqj+SrN+26AiLtIw=; b=aYMmJygmjdp1rkUt5+SdChAWSZiy3d36Cog1uX2JZJTfPHppfZ1J6NGFMmquLEZD+1 TNPxdvqHMJ+AbZZ2/IRvmXZR24GJBomSZoioqswRwhCFL5Q3MBQFIZixati++LIfLa2J D+K9QZSgzoC+D/DFZrQ5QU6BFhp7kHivsfRUw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=pmXwcSQmN3CIvEzdN9C+CTq1XQpRRS0ZP97YIHvy0n2YNCabV9KmCcJoV/NoL+EzVr f+duWWtWieTRMXtDdyrdrFockH1tAWTI0T55kWnE3m58ufvx0WKMqwxyWCfBpqXkda/S NeEBGGpphMXmHmyUMfqWqD+gSkmG3EUFshiL8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4DF7E75E.9000907@mrabarnett.plus.com> <6NWdnfBF0rgB42fQnZ2dnUVZ5h2dnZ2d@giganews.com> <4dfaa441$0$30002$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> From: Ian Kelly Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 22:50:21 -0600 Subject: Re: break in a module To: Erik Max Francis Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 22 NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.94.164.166 X-Trace: 1308286253 news.xs4all.nl 49177 [::ffff:82.94.164.166]:38201 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:7798 On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 10:24 PM, Erik Max Francis wrote: > True. =A0So let's use `in` to represent breaking out of the top-level cod= e of > a module. =A0Why not, it's not the first time a keyword has been reused, > right? > > The point is, if it's not obvious already from that facetious proposal, i= t's > not a good idea to reuse keywords that really read very differently than > their original use. =A0Reusing `break` (or `return`) this way would be ra= ther > abusive. Yes, using `in` to mean "break out of a block" would obviously be a terrible choice, since the word "in" has nothing to do with breaking. I really don't see why using `break` to mean "break out of a block" is counter-intuitive, especially since as you point out it is already used that way for two particular types of blocks. The proposed usage merely adds a third type. I think a stronger objection might be that it disrupts the homology of `break` and `continue`, since continuing a module is meaningless.