Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.007 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'one?': 0.05; 'passes': 0.05; '"""': 0.07; 'bubble': 0.09; 'indicates': 0.09; 'received :mail-lpp01m010-f46.google.com': 0.09; 'am,': 0.12; 'algorithm': 0.13; 'adjacent': 0.16; 'gradually': 0.16; 'selects': 0.16; 'sorted,': 0.16; 'swaps': 0.16; 'variable.': 0.16; 'cc:addr :python-list': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'repeated': 0.18; 'thus': 0.21; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.22; 'feb': 0.22; 'end,': 0.23; 'pair': 0.23; 'works.': 0.23; 'elements': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.26; 'separate': 0.28; 'described': 0.28; 'needed,': 0.28; 'order.': 0.28; 'repeatedly': 0.28; 'pass': 0.29; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.29; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.29; 'url:wiki': 0.29; 'array': 0.30; 'ago': 0.31; 'actually': 0.31; 'received:209.85.215.46': 0.32; 'tue,': 0.32; 'list': 0.32; 'agree': 0.33; 'rather': 0.34; 'hi,': 0.34; 'pass.': 0.34; 'stores': 0.34; 'list.': 0.35; 'moving': 0.35; '(for': 0.35; 'largest': 0.36; 'comparing': 0.37; 'element': 0.37; 'but': 0.37; 'shows': 0.37; 'received:google.com': 0.37; 'either': 0.37; 'received:209.85': 0.38; '2nd': 0.38; 'think': 0.38; 'smaller': 0.39; 'url:org': 0.39; 'url:en': 0.39; 'received:209.85.215': 0.39; 'received:209': 0.39; 'called': 0.40; 'selection': 0.40; 'simple': 0.61; 'believe': 0.65; 'maximum': 0.66; 'subject:name': 0.67; '1st': 0.70; '11:10': 0.84; 'gif': 0.84; 'gif.': 0.84; 'sort.': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=JsE6eHJtFjcuUep8zEVjvPLXKwNWKNDHixeE/I88YbA=; b=rrKlZki4UjdUxwghm1b1TBQwO4mmR1BaIqjv18KyfxVjRD+unuRRbuZZrmABeKi45j T5A5Y+thAxJrxyuPGgV5apcBuRJ6tTHFepC3zkn644E4By0CfrrObPLYaimY80tAG61w EOlqJc9X9iNGW2TV+67CxStqzzMnVHLkY7mag= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <73b8d112-9e94-486e-b06c-bdeebc0bf964@q12g2000yqg.googlegroups.com> From: Ian Kelly Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 13:59:00 -0700 Subject: Re: name of a sorting algorithm To: Jabba Laci Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Python mailing list X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 36 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1329253173 news.xs4all.nl 6950 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:48245 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:20418 On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Jabba Laci wrote: > Hi, > >> Either you're misremembering, or the algorithm you programmed 43 years >> ago was not actually bubble sort. =A0Quoting from Wikipedia: >> >> """ >> Bubble sort, also known as sinking sort, is a simple sorting algorithm >> that works by repeatedly stepping through the list to be sorted, >> comparing each pair of adjacent items and swapping them if they are in >> the wrong order. The pass through the list is repeated until no swaps >> are needed, which indicates that the list is sorted. The algorithm >> gets its name from the way smaller elements "bubble" to the top of the >> list. >> """ > > I don't agree with the last sentence. During bubble sort, in the 1st > pass the largest element is moved to the top (for me "top" means the > right side (end) of an array). Thus the end of the array is sorted. In > the 2nd pass, the largest element of the unsorted left part is moved > to the end, etc. That is, it's the _larger_ elements that bubble to > the top. At http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bubble_sort you can find an > animated gif that shows how the algorithm works. I think that by "top" they mean "front". Each largest element in turn gets moved to the end in a single pass. It is the smaller elements gradually moving toward the front over many passes that I believe is described as "bubbling", as can be seen in that gif. > If the "noname" algorithm is called "selection sort", then its name > can be misleading. One may ask "OK, but which one? Minimum or maximum > selection sort?". Well, neither... It is a minimum selection sort, because it selects the minimum element on each pass. It just stores the minimum element so far in-place in the array, rather than in a separate variable.