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Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 10:42:19 -0800 References: <20121205084830.74e842119d151781db385406@lavabit.com> <20121205174237.GH10865@hud> <20121205164851.93f151641a1d085e5262f59d@lavabit.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip184-187-163-27.sb.sd.cox.net User-Agent: dsodnetnin X-Mailer: EZnn0.37p X-Newsreader: EZnn0.37p X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: EZnn0.37p Original-Received: from slem by 1.1 with local X-No-Archive: yes Archive: no X-Archive: expiry=11 X-Archive: encrypt X-Operating-System: Barebones_6.1 X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 192.168.1.1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 63 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1354819354 news.xs4all.nl 6889 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:54783 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:34417 On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 00:06:29 -0500 Terry Reedy wrote: > On 12/5/2012 7:48 PM, rh wrote: > > On Wed, 5 Dec 2012 18:42:37 +0100 > > Bruno Dupuis wrote: > > > >> On Wed, Dec 05, 2012 at 08:48:30AM -0800, rh wrote: > >>> I have argparse working with one exception. I wanted the program > >>> to print out usage when no command line options are given. But I > >>> only came across other examples where people didn't use argparse > >>> but instead printed out a separate usage statement. So they used > >>> argparse for everything but the case where no command line args > >>> are given. > >>> > >> > >> this is quite raw, but i'd add > >> > >> import sys > >> if len(sys.argv) == 1: > >> sys.argv.append('-h') > > > > This works too. I guess I like the print_usage() method better. > > > > Being new to python I have noticed that I had copied a bit of code > > that did > > > > if len(sys.argv[1:]) == 0: > > This needlessly creates and tosses a new object. > > > > You did this: > > if len(sys.argv) == 1: > > This does not. > > > The other reply did this: > > if len(sys.argv) <= 1: > > This allows for the possibility that len(sys.argv) == 0. However, > that can (according to the doc) only happen when starting the > interpreter interactively without a script. Since that does not apply > to code within a .py file, I prefer == 1. > > "argv[0] is the script name (it is operating system dependent whether > this is a full pathname or not). If the command was executed using > the -c command line option to the interpreter, argv[0] is set to the > string '-c'. If no script name was passed to the Python interpreter, > argv[0] is the empty string." Interesting, I thought maybe <= 1 was to handle some strange case where sys.argv < 0. And I guess I stick with == 1. Always good to know from the get go what's the best way to do the basics. > > -- > Terry Jan Reedy > --