Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'python,': 0.01; 'subject:: [': 0.02; 'subject:released': 0.03; 'received:localnet': 0.07; 'versions.': 0.07; 'python': 0.08; 'context.': 0.09; 'package.': 0.12; 'library': 0.13; 'wednesday,': 0.15; '(tm)': 0.16; 'cc:name:python list': 0.16; 'confusing.': 0.16; "doesn't.": 0.16; 'extracting': 0.16; 'installs': 0.16; 'ops': 0.16; 'uninstall': 0.16; 'xlrd': 0.16; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.16; 'subject:] ': 0.18; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'seems': 0.20; 'cheers,': 0.20; 'header:In- Reply-To:1': 0.22; 'versions': 0.23; 'extract': 0.24; 'packaging': 0.24; 'preferred': 0.25; 'windows': 0.26; 'assuming': 0.29; 'installing': 0.29; 'version.': 0.29; 'installed': 0.29; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.29; 'seem': 0.29; '22,': 0.30; 'installer': 0.30; 'received:209.85.210.46': 0.30; 'received:mail- pz0-f46.google.com': 0.30; 'chris': 0.30; 'installation': 0.30; 'received:24': 0.31; 'developers': 0.31; 'message-id:@gmail.com': 0.31; 'version': 0.32; 'does': 0.32; 'yet': 0.32; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.33; 'it.': 0.33; 'setting': 0.34; 'community': 0.35; 'things': 0.35; 'install': 0.35; 'cc:2**1': 0.36; 'two': 0.36; 'example,': 0.37; 'reasons': 0.37; 'but': 0.37; 'entry': 0.37; 'received:google.com': 0.37; 'using': 0.37; 'received:209.85': 0.38; 'useful': 0.38; 'data': 0.38; 'easier': 0.38; 'files': 0.39; 'are:': 0.39; 'recommended': 0.39; 'received:209': 0.39; 'everyone': 0.39; 'point': 0.40; 'might': 0.40; 'header:Received:6': 0.61; 'header:Message-Id:1': 0.62; 'managing': 0.62; 'here': 0.64; 'believe': 0.65; 'subject:!': 0.66; 'utilities': 0.67; 'cc:addr:chris': 0.84; 'package:': 0.84; 'need,': 0.91 Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of adrian.klaver@gmail.com designates 10.68.239.41 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.68.239.41; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of adrian.klaver@gmail.com designates 10.68.239.41 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=adrian.klaver@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=adrian.klaver@gmail.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=JjWhOuZYTy/vfZXAy1nYy8+Y0XLoMLGYjpO5Qd/xONI=; b=isupUr1yIXmAnm/ySI782S0LspOJcHF39BYRbrv54QEXi8mZWHFIMcuwlYPE63fy5g 4eA5WRRnXcKEM4neEDzJHmNCqsdH/w9jU5DaszWi7r+2Gp3raxEgMDQxC0rqCAMYqzOA mYD1TO3ojK6mkMtvpHCiyEj+wcMiAtOR0TTls= From: Adrian Klaver To: python-excel@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [pyxl] xlrd 0.7.2 released! Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 15:17:26 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (Linux/2.6.32-38-generic; KDE/4.4.5; i686; ; ) References: <4F436119.9090509@simplistix.co.uk> <20120222003747.GA24152@raf.org> <4F44EC25.7060309@simplistix.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4F44EC25.7060309@simplistix.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Python List , Chris Withers X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 49 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1329952655 news.xs4all.nl 6929 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:55241 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:20702 On Wednesday, February 22, 2012 5:22:45 am Chris Withers wrote: > On 22/02/2012 00:37, python-excel@raf.org wrote: > > was good for previous versions. two reasons that spring to mind > > > > immediately are: > > - it makes it much easier to tell what version is installed > > - it makes it much easier to uninstall the package > > > > i know that both of these are things that the python community > > does not yet seem to find useful but everyone else seems to. > > That's because it's no longer best practice to polute the global python > installation by installing packages directly into it. > > The recommended wisdom nowadays is to use a virtualenv and then pip > install the package. I can see where that would be preferred when managing multiple versions of Python, but not when using a single version. The pip system does a good job of managing package installs in the global context. As to the OPs original post, I see the point. On Windows the installer is the point of entry for 'package' management, going outside that can get confusing. I also understand setting up a Windows installer is non-trivial. Assuming a Windows installer is not in the offing, the OP might find it easier to use the Python packaging from here on out. For an example, to find out information on a package: aklaver@tucker:~/.pip$ pip search xlrd xlutils - Utilities for working with Excel files that require both xlrd and xlwt xlrd - Library for developers to extract data from Microsoft Excel (tm) spreadsheet files INSTALLED: 0.7.2 (latest) xlrd3 - Library for developers to extract data from Microsoft Excel (tm) spreadsheet files xlrd1 - library for extracting data from Microsoft Excel spreadsheet files > > I believe that will give you everything you need, please explain if it > doesn't. > > cheers, > > Chris -- Adrian Klaver adrian.klaver@gmail.com