Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!usenet-fr.net!nerim.net!novso.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.012 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'output': 0.05; 'subject:code': 0.07; 'kumar': 0.09; 'means,': 0.09; 'output,': 0.09; 'wrong,': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'jan': 0.12; 'language,': 0.12; 'posted': 0.15; 'assignment.': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'googling': 0.16; 'hint': 0.16; 'it),': 0.16; 'subject:post': 0.16; '(you': 0.16; 'so.': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'code.': 0.18; 'obviously': 0.18; 'bit': 0.19; 'written': 0.21; 'help.': 0.21; 'programming': 0.22; 'saying': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'error': 0.23; 'helpful': 0.24; 'mon,': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'post': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'tried': 0.27; 'idea': 0.28; 'point': 0.28; 'nature': 0.30; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; 'code': 0.31; 'getting': 0.31; 'requests': 0.31; '"please': 0.31; 'etc': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'method': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'wrong': 0.37; 'two': 0.37; 'project': 0.37; 'clear': 0.37; 'pm,': 0.38; 'rather': 0.38; "couldn't": 0.39; 'help,': 0.39; 'though,': 0.39; 'enough': 0.39; 'days': 0.60; 'easy': 0.60; 'subject:Can': 0.60; 'most': 0.60; 'strictly': 0.61; "you're": 0.61; 'you.': 0.62; "you'll": 0.62; "you've": 0.63; 'show': 0.63; 'more': 0.64; 'here': 0.66; '20,': 0.68; 'hints': 0.68; 'truth': 0.81; 'actually,': 0.84; 'homework': 0.84; 'understand,': 0.84; 'working,': 0.84; 'to:none': 0.92 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=XCANsH83gqiozlHiMyOWnfT+/QVlLcQ6yKeFYIi9PMw=; b=VPS5cvX8tmPjCVY1rm69MQ1Oz4TMZJhecxzlCTfYI8JNWQoy8hINVm4u6fkKF42x+U X9ryVxZbz65O7/Ojg386X5AbzG39ngVZBjHRqrYzLif58bcArPDu0cSDS9RcBW9lnW+9 Go/MIidk/UaDINr37rp+vsd343FeSoDywSjzmDHMjWv5k+YwdVfMHL2oJoAkFR2IAF16 DKdSo7+ZTnOvKHijtkkLJsjtMGR6v39BAJyn0H+2fWaSdwLS31xoqrPLA+R3GeNdNQ/s LloaJqWbM05eN/ha9Ink3m3FYUmcAGdb+RDTYq//XsPIFa3P/G/lEkiTtiuFixq8dFer 684Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.66.163.36 with SMTP id yf4mr17582300pab.67.1390207721865; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 00:48:41 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <662f9a05-e3d3-448f-836b-beb12132d43f@googlegroups.com> References: <52db7142$0$29999$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <662f9a05-e3d3-448f-836b-beb12132d43f@googlegroups.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 19:48:41 +1100 Subject: Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism From: Chris Angelico Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 36 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1390208178 news.xs4all.nl 2959 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:36294 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:64348 On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 6:55 PM, indar kumar wrote= : > Actually, I tried to ask some questions but I was discouraged to do so sa= ying that I was working on a project or some assignment. Truth be told I am= stuck at one point and since I don't have experience with programming lang= uage, I have been working for it for two days but couldn't come up with som= e idea so posted some questions of the same format just to know whether the= re is particular method etc to do so. Hint would have been enough but I was= strictly discouraged. > Here's my policy on homework. Others may vary, but you'll find a lot will be broadly similar. When you take a course, you should be learning, not just passing. That means that getting someone else to do your work for you is completely wrong, so I won't help you. But if you've put down some code and it's not working, then by all means, ask for help with the details; it's easy if you have an error message you don't understand (you might be able to get that by Googling it), but a lot harder if you're getting output you don't understand, and then it can help a LOT to have an expert look at your code. You would need to post your code and exactly what you're seeing as wrong (exception traceback, or "expected this output, got this instead"); and if you make it clear up-front that it's homework and you're looking for hints rather than an answer-on-a-plate, I'm happy to help. What you will find, though, is that most requests are more of the nature of "please do my homework for me", so people are more likely to be annoyed than helpful when they see what's obviously homework. So you have a bit of an uphill battle just to get heard. But if you can show that you're here to learn - and showing that you've already written most of the code is a good way to do that - you can get help, and often a lot of it. ChrisA