Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder2.enfer-du-nord.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.060 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.88; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.05; ':-)': 0.06; 'symbols': 0.07; 'recipe': 0.09; 'exception': 0.12; '"o"': 0.16; 'apl': 0.16; 'emacs,': 0.16; 'hell,': 0.16; 'nick': 0.16; 'subject:usage': 0.16; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'bytes': 0.18; 'this?': 0.19; 'maybe': 0.21; 'input': 0.22; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.22; '(or': 0.22; 'feb': 0.22; 'ret': 0.23; 'subject:numbers': 0.23; 'byte': 0.24; 'looks': 0.27; 'asking': 0.28; 'missed': 0.28; 'column': 0.28; 'bit': 0.28; 'second': 0.28; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.29; 'sun,': 0.30; 'chris': 0.30; 'translate': 0.31; 'represents': 0.32; 'does': 0.32; 'usual': 0.32; "can't": 0.33; 'character': 0.34; 'steven': 0.34; 'symbol': 0.34; 'apply': 0.35; 'cc:2**1': 0.36; 'received:org': 0.36; 'but': 0.37; 'mathematical': 0.38; 'allows': 0.38; 'e.g.': 0.39; 'unlike': 0.39; 'unless': 0.39; 'everyone': 0.39; 'type': 0.61; 'staff': 0.61; 'your': 0.61; 'course,': 0.62; 'human': 0.62; 'foreign': 0.64; 'it)': 0.67; 'traditional': 0.68; 'reply-to:no real name:2**0': 0.72; 'grew': 0.73; '8bit%:20': 0.74; 'header :Reply-to:1': 0.76; 'pardon': 0.84; 'rusi': 0.84; 'tex': 0.84; 'ascii.': 0.91; 'cent': 0.91; 'speaks': 0.91; 'courier': 0.95 X-Amavis-Alert: BAD HEADER SECTION, Duplicate header field: "Cc" To: rusi From: Nick Dokos Subject: Re: Python usage numbers In-Reply-To: Message from rusi of "Sun\, 12 Feb 2012 08\:50\:28 PST." References: <4F36E2F5.9000505@gmail.com> <4f37229b$0$29986$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <4f375347$0$29986$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Organization: HPCS X-Mailer: MH-E 8.3.1; nmh 1.3; GNU Emacs 24.0.92 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 12:36:30 -0500 Sender: nicholas.dokos@hp.com Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: nicholas.dokos@hp.com List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 54 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1329068559 news.xs4all.nl 6987 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:56723 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:20284 rusi wrote: > On Feb 12, 10:51=C2=A0am, Steven D'Aprano +comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info> wrote: > > On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 15:38:37 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: > > > Everything that displays text to a human needs to translate bytes into > > > glyphs, and the usual way to do this conceptually is to go via > > > characters. Pretending that it's all the same thing really means > > > pretending that one byte represents one character and that each > > > character is depicted by one glyph. And that's doomed to failure, unl= ess > > > everyone speaks English with no foreign symbols - so, no mathematical > > > notations. > > > > Pardon me, but you can't even write *English* in ASCII. > > > > You can't say that it cost you =C2=A310 to courier your r=C3=A9sum=C3= =A9 to the head > > office of Encyclop=C3=A6dia Britanica to apply for the position of Staff > > Co=C3=B6rdinator. (Admittedly, the umlaut on the second "o" looks a bit= stuffy > > and old-fashioned, but it is traditional English.) > > > > Hell, you can't even write in *American*: you can't say that the recipe > > for the 20=C2=A2 WobblyBurger=E2=84=A2 is =C2=A9 2012 WobblyBurgerWorld= Inc. >=20 > [Quite OT but...] How do you type all this? > [Note: I grew up on APL so unlike Rick I am genuinely asking :-) ] [Emacs speficic] Many different ways of course, but in emacs, you can select e.g. the TeX in= put method with C-x RET C-\ TeX RET. which does all of the above symbols with the exception of the cent symbol (or maybe I missed it) - you type the thing in the first column and = you get the thing in the second column \pounds =C2=A3 \'e =C3=A9 \ae =C3=A6 \"o =C3=B6 ^{TM} =E2=84=A2 \copyright =C2=A9 I gave up on the cent symbol and used ucs-insert (C-x 8 RET) which allows y= ou to type a name, in this case CENT SIGN to get =C2=A2. Nick