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On 2/12/2012 12:10 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> It's not just UTF8 either, but nearly all encodings. You can't even 
> expect to avoid problems if you stick to nothing but Windows, because 
> Windows' default encoding is localised: a file generated in (say) Israel 
> or Japan or Germany will use a different code page (encoding) by default 
> than one generated in (say) the US, Canada or UK.
Generated by what? Windows will store a locale value for programs to
use, but programs use Unicode internally by default (i.e., API calls are
Unicode unless they were built for old versions of Windows), and the
default filesystem (NTFS) uses Unicode for file names. AFAIK, only the
terminal has a localized code page by default.
Perhaps Notepad will write text files with the localized code page by
default, but that's an application choice...

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