Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.albasani.net!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'beginner': 0.05; 'purpose.': 0.07; 'subject:()': 0.09; 'subject:question': 0.10; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'def': 0.12; 'jan': 0.12; 'assume': 0.14; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'hex': 0.16; 'least)': 0.16; 's/he': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'pieces': 0.19; '>>>': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'print': 0.22; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'subject:/': 0.26; 'code:': 0.26; 'header :In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'point': 0.28; 'function': 0.29; "doesn't": 0.30; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'code': 0.31; '>>>>': 0.31; 'figure': 0.32; 'everyone': 0.33; 'tool': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'wrong': 0.37; 'two': 0.37; 'pm,': 0.38; "you're": 0.61; 'to:none': 0.92 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=lnM3zeyEfEUFTeItnWC8x3a40MDpY3kwat9H9y4urHE=; b=vvjfB8Ib+jovVGMGPsLjStJ5xAYHyWYZ6lXAf/WrW0/SHMBGKDF+OUrhzuiRFtk8SK YnbzA+/X+yp9dvp3udCFzSBzwCB2N/8HeOkzo+tA+S07Po7zRm4Luo0AyGmqhfC3PESZ 7xc7V4M0V14n7VzwsaE92KhGla8PSORtUbxpKJke+i++BOqmvaDe07aWTqMTOvd9HqYu jH61ea82MkYnwQNF1EeDT6MJgNGsZVLbVoXKgvtFSaWa2XRJCjF56HvfIG/kOBql1hMn sQLrPbTCPbsr9daWyIeDXe/qxgY3RbmBSgN3o6IWhm6MMIT1j42trmaTCX5Ux0HwQWSZ oghQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.75.9 with SMTP id y9mr11333874pbv.61.1390107598160; Sat, 18 Jan 2014 20:59:58 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <07dc8493-fb43-47b4-b080-7bc1ae3d6681@googlegroups.com> References: <2b7f1a5d-4145-4f7d-be47-72d5eb207391@googlegroups.com> <07dc8493-fb43-47b4-b080-7bc1ae3d6681@googlegroups.com> Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2014 15:59:58 +1100 Subject: Re: question about input() and/or raw_input() From: Chris Angelico Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 29 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1390107607 news.xs4all.nl 2907 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:50827 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:64280 On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 3:43 PM, Rustom Mody wrote: > Because these two pieces of code > >>>> def foo(x): print x+1 > >>>> def bar(x): return x+1 > > look identical (to a beginner at least) > >>>> foo(3) > 4 >>>> bar(3) > 4 >>>> As do these pieces of code: >>> def quux(x): return str(x+1) >>> def quux(x): return hex(x+1)[2:] But we don't decry hex or str because of it. Every function has its use and purpose. If someone uses the wrong tool for the job, s/he will have to figure that out at some point - it doesn't mean the tool is wrong. If you're not using the REPL, print is critical. Don't assume everyone uses interactive mode. ChrisA