Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!newsfeed.kamp.net!newsfeed.kamp.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Larry Martell Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Guido sees the light: PEP 8 updated Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2016 14:53:34 -0400 Lines: 31 Message-ID: References: <5711c1b3$0$1596$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <87shym6kpo.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <87h9f26ioa.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <1460809922.1918014.580580553.0AE05EE4@webmail.messagingengine.com> <878u0d7az5.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de yrTi9Md2qiylZ4/gsGPHlgeC5C57pfykApCFASaXHtqw== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.005 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; '16,': 0.03; 'received:209.85.223': 0.03; 'column': 0.07; 'subject:PEP': 0.07; 'width': 0.07; 'length.': 0.09; 'rigorous': 0.09; '*only*': 0.16; '2016': 0.16; 'pep8': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; '>>>': 0.20; 'all,': 0.20; 'to:name:python-list@python.org': 0.20; 'visible': 0.22; 'sat,': 0.23; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'coding': 0.27; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'function': 0.28; 'larry': 0.29; 'screen.': 0.29; 'character': 0.29; 'code': 0.30; 'especially': 0.32; 'screen': 0.32; 'run': 0.33; 'worked': 0.34; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'there': 0.36; 'received:209.85': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'pm,': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'agree': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.38; 'end': 0.39; 'why': 0.39; 'subject:the': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'where': 0.40; 'still': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'entire': 0.61; 'wide': 0.61; 'matter': 0.63; 'companies': 0.63; 'judge': 0.66; 'ugly,': 0.84; 'divided': 0.93 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=hx2e0pv8iH4vkuA/OjbfSLUa+tMm63GyQHXbjp4gyWE=; b=LQxGiidE1YDXR3cldUYaS1+wyorpMPcoAZdXnikwJAcrs+kbWCeyd00qZg4aM83esD elGv/PUAyGYQOwawGKapQqQjPaSp2Lrutpm2whyOsdgQ8NRuObKgQ9Eg22LjvXMrh35i 4dbcQKhrs9JH977QqhueDgV9gLd5fKTjU31exc39JbKnSuDLIlLLyAccZTXxtBX030fe 0+X/v7jd5LHFy1stoLv002TREvGujNShpnuK08R6jL5v/Je7pI7aRAtkHetXIhfVVBVb J8/bvMbjHkRKV9clcE68GzXdCoGLsODc4ZG/x9XZfKoDNrS23yW60hwSZTGiLa9ttLEZ dsFA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=hx2e0pv8iH4vkuA/OjbfSLUa+tMm63GyQHXbjp4gyWE=; b=YTFDPm62ubm/0gwiY5MOE8armYEHo/D1yGCvb7dQzquI3humS7tSBGvK7CI3ykvHNe ywGCg4LJerxtSPnCiFmzyUs+ulaS2l0ZshZyiFEiv5HvczNXr8QH7c2q2ZSSoy7aaT2g HSt6lJCHZlexPoMUNwqLHxAJP8/ABo0qFG6Ytfz49A7HTHCSGOVqiBzneaM+XvZpggyR uU0p1A+00O4BE6q6TTcNjoZc2Znz8v3H58AaGHwXl9yfIY61z8+g9t1QwsOBeFnukYpo mJK6TSGn7b4qQD1EdIJVjigOOvUuS8Ybgoqy4UkNbTzxe9j50FXuIqtjBKdxfdeckN9J SXUQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOPr4FUfbPVwK7pswXx2qbDjJHLUD1PjtEQ92BuPFdF6svYizOuEF0pPlkMyK5TzpRzMz8yYeapc1wYqufXZdA== X-Received: by 10.107.136.69 with SMTP id k66mr32924979iod.0.1460832854565; Sat, 16 Apr 2016 11:54:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: X-Mailman-Original-References: <5711c1b3$0$1596$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <87shym6kpo.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <87h9f26ioa.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <1460809922.1918014.580580553.0AE05EE4@webmail.messagingengine.com> <878u0d7az5.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:107107 On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 2:18 PM, BartC wrote: > On 16/04/2016 17:58, Larry Martell wrote: >> >> On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: >>> >>> Larry Martell : >>> >>>> I have worked for many companies where you are required to get a clean >>>> run of pep8 on your code before your pull request will even be >>>> considered for approval. I don't agree with this at all, as I think it >>>> makes the code very ugly, especially enforcing the max line length. >>> >>> >>> Agh, I was with you until your last remark. >>> >>> A max line length of 79 characters is among the *only* rigorous >>> principles I judge coding style on. >>> >>> It comes with the maxim that one function must be visible at once on the >>> screen. >> >> >> if we still had 1970's 80 character TTYs that would matter but on my >> 29" 1920x1080 screen it doesn't. > > > There are reasons why 'broadsheet' newspapers don't have a single wide > column spanning the entire width of the page, but are divided into multiple > columns. Nor do they have a \ at the end of each line with the following line indented.