Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: INADA Naoki Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: [STORY-TIME] THE BDFL AND HIS PYTHON PETTING ZOO Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2016 12:02:19 +0900 Lines: 29 Message-ID: References: <48762040-a7e0-434c-92e8-8a0969210e5b@googlegroups.com> <5d31dd14-1a60-4f80-8889-d0616f404c70@googlegroups.com> <4e902c58-3370-4adf-905d-74630a6eea90@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de xxBuPTL5uswNY3ug68WH0wdxAzgZz2qMiCmUIR759dzA== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'python,': 0.02; 'subject:: [': 0.03; 'python3': 0.05; 'incompatible': 0.07; 'wednesday,': 0.07; 'backwards': 0.09; 'python': 0.10; 'python.': 0.11; 'language,': 0.11; '2016': 0.16; 'disaster.': 0.16; 'happily': 0.16; 'obviously,': 0.16; 'python3.': 0.16; 'python4': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'subject:PYTHON': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; '>': 0.18; 'email addr:gmail.com>': 0.18; 'python?': 0.18; 'subject:] ': 0.19; 'changes': 0.20; 'to:name:python-list@python.org': 0.20; 'am,': 0.23; 'feb': 0.23; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'bad.': 0.29; 'url:mailman': 0.30; 'problem': 0.33; 'url:python': 0.33; 'legacy': 0.33; 'url:listinfo': 0.34; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'possible.': 0.36; 'received:209.85': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'johnson': 0.37; 'received:209.85.213': 0.37; 'itself': 0.38; 'received:209': 0.38; "didn't": 0.39; 'subject:-': 0.39; 'url:mail': 0.40; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'john': 0.61; 'great': 0.63; 'introduce': 0.79; 'subject:THE': 0.91; 'rick': 0.93; 'subject:AND': 0.93 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=trkmNIVtg25nBtbiiAafGCY1XSk8L2WpGxODALNH/Kk=; b=NSXr1qpplAIpAmpn/4UP7r4YebCmZFhCo2dNYLO3I/m83xN9GcktwBA5fevRi7jNOq 0SLYX+kKrwNUPS9Pw+4mYHbhzgLKvZcdLHSWhZlomE1pImqhXhUsY4/t6/PZaCMlkim/ 5nlgAqTJWeoMLWOldGiHI9fZlEPzo5K98VtWV9UAypakxjCnw33ukNOr6LCPoYwpbt+L lGnzoMbvU0xmrDX2I1xO7sOCTP2OGyvPtng4gTefXq+cpGFEcf8wO6OPG33wJh8NmGhp e2P4bNfevNPx5gur++6ZactRpWWkWZ0BKxWE6YBebPXdG2H03xTZBB4h7B2AtHYpYozH MoAQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=trkmNIVtg25nBtbiiAafGCY1XSk8L2WpGxODALNH/Kk=; b=KdOqn0juWx9GctFEF1vq/gtkbLQitITgCmoTVBwQ5HPqnZIxzI4PXvpiHgen6pnTuV 8fZTd/CsT4hDxDDRG3211EMaKr6OVNLd+viaMh3J7iuP/dk9hK5p8qyW+iGGB7GAFUxY VWboiSbfeu5p9gTqYU1z4hBSeBsMnEs0ESp/rw4dH9EoNYzcXVPVSxAfeJruDjzfkN2V VAEEv/rrcXNseSZOZUIBlZa1f4kH5ZZmQCSGzi+J1ndXuW2N199ThqDj5/AhWL4VT63B d/puwfBETT3ptLhgapEciNBNvtZBHTos8dV7cOEJ0KP8+aDQZJVFAFYYUvXtvYa0xHzP TNoQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YORiXIN8AJl0WhDmuusdx9Mam4NN+14q/KU0rCKa6qhpP8zQ63t1yS/0A97BgmCpwVqzCPTrhC0QlM7ZOA== X-Received: by 10.50.138.76 with SMTP id qo12mr17896331igb.85.1454814159358; Sat, 06 Feb 2016 19:02:39 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4e902c58-3370-4adf-905d-74630a6eea90@googlegroups.com> X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21rc2 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21rc2 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:102605 Python 3 is a disaster because of incompatibility with Python 2. Python 3 itself is not so bad. We can help disaster recovery by stop using Python 2 as possible. Let's stop using legacy Python! On Sun, Feb 7, 2016 at 5:54 AM, Rick Johnson wrote: > On Wednesday, February 3, 2016 at 12:02:35 AM UTC-6, John Ladasky wrote: > > > Rick, you don't like Python? > > If i didn't like Python, then i would happily let it self- > destruct, yes? The problem is, i *DO* like Python. Python2 > was a great language, but python3 has been a disaster. Heck, > even the BDFL has warned that Python4 cannot introduce as > many backwards incompatible changes as python3. So obviously, > he is admitting that Python3 was a disaster. > > > -- > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list > -- INADA Naoki