Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.018 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.96; '*S*': 0.00; 'sysadmin': 0.04; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'python': 0.08; "(i'm": 0.09; 'confuse': 0.09; 'cool.': 0.09; 'python-based': 0.09; '*really*': 0.16; 'mismatch': 0.16; 'subject:Engine': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'of.': 0.18; 'received:internal': 0.18; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.22; 'received:10.202': 0.23; 'received:10.202.2': 0.23; 'received:66.111': 0.23; 'received:66.111.4': 0.23; 'received:messagingengine.com': 0.23; 'referring': 0.23; "python's": 0.24; 'stefan': 0.24; 'writes:': 0.25; 'guess': 0.26; 'stuff': 0.26; 'up.': 0.26; 'paul': 0.28; 'subject: + ': 0.30; 'tool.': 0.30; 'pretty': 0.31; 'quite': 0.31; 'thanks': 0.32; 'does': 0.32; 'there': 0.33; 'fri,': 0.34; 'deployment': 0.34; 'community': 0.35; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.35; 'another': 0.37; "i'll": 0.38; 'enough': 0.38; 'received:192': 0.38; 'bunch': 0.38; 'think': 0.38; 'etc.)': 0.39; "i'd": 0.39; 'registered': 0.39; 'header': 0.39; 'tool': 0.39; 'called': 0.40; 'user': 0.40; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'your': 0.61; 'subject': 0.61; 'further': 0.64; 'engine': 0.65; 'saw': 0.66; 'contact': 0.67; '14:52': 0.84; 'oss': 0.84; 'unaware': 0.84; 'communities,': 0.91; 'confusion.': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=letterboxes.org; h=message-id:subject:from:to:date:in-reply-to:references :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; s=mesmtp; bh=c4vNw7EPbkba44wq3PTlqac7jOk=; b=hZaJLNZ/yspO9D2HJuWo/EoaGk2i l0p9tJMhx5DHnVWLfVqD7D3KSknhdC3XXSMgapTlUlr2ye6CQPTWpXJlnpIsLwye 5LFhkMzEmdJ7gManPe/60T7C/teJ80jy30YWg7qA+EoEFOBku986bCIZ+hx2Rov4 j8OsY78LgZ5FIOE= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=message-id:subject:from:to:date :in-reply-to:references:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :mime-version; s=smtpout; bh=c4vNw7EPbkba44wq3PTlqac7jOk=; b=T3A f1YMQYuMsa237gelVJ5hMvD2Ez631eqYG6pbvQuNAR0bDJG0YAm8HBnmvWtBzbUh /iuNDoZ87rJHhothvm5GExQ5DbaFBUXqcc++s+eM8xDRJTfKrDHZxSxCxmOdkTiP fLzVjhrL2mLPIic4FZbdfRvFiVtW/m2vCUHHOzSg= X-Sasl-enc: Nk6ZtBcAJ04PG/B+/6rDKJE5wmL2k+64CVoF16ozYA3h 1328918375 Subject: Re: Fabric Engine + Python benchmarks From: "Albert W. Hopkins" To: python-list@python.org Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 18:59:35 -0500 In-Reply-To: <7xhayy9u8d.fsf@ruckus.brouhaha.com> References: <6277efff-3aa8-4e35-bb89-dfd0dcc03f20@c6g2000vbk.googlegroups.com> <8f6c5726-7479-4d49-8489-bb397605c470@s7g2000vby.googlegroups.com> <7xhayy9u8d.fsf@ruckus.brouhaha.com> Face: 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 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.3.5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 26 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1328918379 news.xs4all.nl 6895 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:58132 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:20207 On Fri, 2012-02-10 at 14:52 -0800, Paul Rubin wrote: > Fabric Paul writes: > > Hi Stefan - Thanks for the heads up. Fabric Engine has been going for > > about 2 years now. Registered company etc. I'll be sure to refer to it > > as Fabric Engine so there's no confusion. We were unaware there was a > > python tool called Fabric. > > There will still be confusion. The Fabric configuration tool is quite > well known in the python and sysadmin communities, so it will be the > first thing people will think of. If you weren't already aware of it, > I'd guess you're pretty far out of contact with Python's existing user > population, so there may be further sources of mismatch between your > product and what else is out there (I'm thinking of Stackless, PyPy, > etc.) Still, yoour product sounds pretty cool. > Indeed. When I first saw the subject header I thought it was referring to the Python-based deployment tool. It's just going to confuse people. It's enough already that we have a bunch of stuff with "pi" and "py" in the name :| Does the OSS community *really* need another "Firebird" incident? -a