Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.002 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'kind,': 0.07; 'from:addr:ethan': 0.09; 'from:addr:stoneleaf.us': 0.09; 'from:name:ethan furman': 0.09; 'jesus': 0.09; 'message- id:@stoneleaf.us': 0.09; 'received:184.172': 0.09; 'received:gator410.hostgator.com': 0.09; '~ethan~': 0.09; 'subject:was': 0.15; 'finney': 0.16; 'received:72.11': 0.16; 'received:72.11.125': 0.16; 'received:72.11.125.166': 0.16; 'subject:topic': 0.16; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.16; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.21; 'wrote': 0.21; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.22; 'appear': 0.23; 'cc:2**0': 0.26; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.29; 'religion,': 0.30; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.33; 'anything': 0.34; 'driven': 0.34; 'society.': 0.34; 'subject:How': 0.35; 'subject:can': 0.35; '(from': 0.37; 'think': 0.38; 'subject: (': 0.40; 'received:websitewelcome.com': 0.64; 'care': 0.71; 'devotion': 0.84; 'religion': 0.93; 'welfare': 0.93 Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:56:38 -0800 From: Ethan Furman User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ben Finney Subject: OT (waaaayyyyyyyyy off-topic) [was Re: How can I catch misnamed variables?] References: <87vcne2xee.fsf@benfinney.id.au> In-Reply-To: <87vcne2xee.fsf@benfinney.id.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gator410.hostgator.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - python.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - stoneleaf.us X-BWhitelist: no X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: mail.admailinc.com ([192.168.10.136]) [72.11.125.166]:1234 X-Source-Auth: ethan+stoneleaf.us X-Email-Count: 3 X-Source-Cap: dG9idWs7dG9idWs7Z2F0b3I0MTAuaG9zdGdhdG9yLmNvbQ== Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 15 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1328912317 news.xs4all.nl 6842 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:59535 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:20196 Ben Finney wrote (from signature): > “It's a terrible paradox that most charities are driven by religious > belief. . . . if you think altruism without Jesus is not altruism, > then you're a dick.” —Tim Minchin, 2010-11-28 1) Why is it paradoxical? If anything it's a sad commentary on those who don't ascribe to a religion, as it would appear that they care less for their society. 2) altruism: unselfish regard for or devotion to the welfare of others... no mention of religion of any kind, or Jesus in particular. Altruistic-yet-paradoxically-religious-ly yours, ~Ethan~