Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!xlned.com!feeder3.xlned.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.016 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.97; '*S*': 0.00; 'problem:': 0.07; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'windows': 0.15; 'be:': 0.16; 'fds': 0.16; 'from:addr:pitrou.net': 0.16; 'from:addr:solipsis': 0.16; 'from:name:antoine pitrou': 0.16; 'message-id:@post.gmane.org': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'aug': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; "aren't": 0.24; 'subject:/': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; "doesn't": 0.30; '(like': 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; '-0700,': 0.31; 'anonymous': 0.31; 'subject:other': 0.31; 'writes:': 0.31; 'url:python': 0.33; 'created': 0.35; 'case,': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'doing': 0.36; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.36; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'too': 0.37; 'two': 0.37; 'url:library': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'anything': 0.39; 'sure': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'url:3': 0.61; 'nobody': 0.68; 'facilities': 0.69; 'lack': 0.78; 'antoine.': 0.84; 'subject:read': 0.84; 'subject:Pair': 0.91; '2013': 0.98 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Antoine Pitrou Subject: Re: Pair of filenos read/write each other? Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 08:34:36 +0000 (UTC) References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 88.163.232.20 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Ubuntu; Linux x86_64; rv:22.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/22.0) X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 38 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1376469298 news.xs4all.nl 15871 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:48042 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:52503 Nobody nowhere.com> writes: > > On Tue, 13 Aug 2013 16:10:41 -0700, Jack Bates wrote: > > > Is there anything like os.pipe() where you can read/write both ends? > > There's socket.socketpair(), but it's only available on Unix. > > Windows doesn't have AF_UNIX sockets, and anonymous pipes (like the ones > created by os.pipe()) aren't bidirectional. I'm not sure I understand the problem: you can just create two pair of pipes using os.pipe(). If that's too low-level, you can wrap the fds using BufferedRWPair: http://docs.python.org/3.3/library/io.html#io.BufferedRWPair (actual incantation would be: r1, w1 = os.pipe() r2, w2 = os.pipe() end1 = io.BufferedRWPair(io.FileIO(r1, 'r'), io.FileIO(w2, 'w')) end2 = io.BufferedRWPair(io.FileIO(r2, 'r'), io.FileIO(w1, 'w')) end1.write(b"foo") end1.flush() end2.read(3) # -> return b"foo" ) An alternative is to use multiprocessing.Pipe(): http://docs.python.org/3.3/library/multiprocessing.html#multiprocessing.Pipe In any case, Python doesn't lack facilities for doing what you want. Regards Antoine.