Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!ecngs!feeder2.ecngs.de!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.012 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'that?': 0.05; 'utf-8': 0.07; 'ascii': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'jan': 0.12; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'indent': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; '(the': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'byte': 0.24; 'specifies': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'source': 0.25; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'am,': 0.29; 'characters': 0.30; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'fri,': 0.33; 'subject:the': 0.34; 'subject:from': 0.34; 'could': 0.34; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'problems': 0.38; 'files': 0.38; 'first': 0.61; 'effectively': 0.66; 'protocol,': 0.84; 'to:none': 0.92 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=+tCqmYW/dNtQNKklbTmwdU3rSFL94KPPV4z020T46Ag=; b=VjBZk5vGy2PvCCyuIx1NpV+vSdw4K0hjDCQP4GWJPhoycDD6FUW2R+qg9egIb17gLe V0i+QhUOsp1Z2d0i/oEy8QVjTL8UjiSOeVbPsBSKYfkJOZKWpD0XTCPdx5CFc/fyHmxF z4bP1KNhioUAeqqAarfbcxN0P+SFnHtPlwPp6hZDwB2tL1QjdivFJJCw0VyQbkPYHjPt YjFR5R++JRky/ikL2n0TF2/+/T2QjknSXhut6hcI3DD8diknHBfYShxdr5dnIMsiNZ/z o5J7kea1ZvLSVJKPgZk/5YNzenKJRp0J68CYRxnOrW2b9rCCj0tyjRSsXiAWAiyjfwfO gSRg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.183.164 with SMTP id en4mr2015987pbc.169.1389917657380; Thu, 16 Jan 2014 16:14:17 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1389901049.40172.YahooMailBasic@web163804.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1389901049.40172.YahooMailBasic@web163804.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2014 11:14:17 +1100 Subject: Re: Guessing the encoding from a BOM From: Chris Angelico Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 9 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1389917661 news.xs4all.nl 2965 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:45263 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:64116 On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 6:37 AM, Albert-Jan Roskam wrote: > Can you elaborate on that? Unless your utf-8 files will only contain ascii characters I do not understand why you would not want a bom utf-8. It's completely unnecessary, and could cause problems (the BOM is actually whitespace, albeit zero-width, so it could effectively indent the first line of your source code). UTF-8 specifies the byte order as part of the protocol, so you don't need to mark it. ChrisA