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On 4/16/2016 12:58 PM, Larry Martell wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> wrote:
>> Larry Martell <larry.martell@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> I have worked for many companies where you are required to get a clean
>>> run of pep8 on your code before your pull request will even be
>>> considered for approval. I don't agree with this at all, as I think it
>>> makes the code very ugly, especially enforcing the max line length.
>>
>> Agh, I was with you until your last remark.
>>
>> A max line length of 79 characters is among the *only* rigorous
>> principles I judge coding style on.
>>
>> It comes with the maxim that one function must be visible at once on the
>> screen.
>
> if we still had 1970's 80 character TTYs that would matter but on my
> 29" 1920x1080 screen it doesn't.

It depends on whether one prefers to use the extra width to have long 
lines or side-by-side windows.  I prefer the latter.

-- 
Terry Jan Reedy