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Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 09:53:14 +0800
Subject: Re: Is Django the way to go for a newbie?
From: Dwight GoldWinde <Dwight@GoldWinde.com>
To: Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>, Python Python <python-list@python.org>
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So many new things to look into!

Chris, I now will also investigate i18n.

Thank you.

BIG SMILE...

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On 8/10/15, 9:27 AM, "Chris Angelico" <rosuav@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 3:41 AM, Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Web development is very a very hard problem, largely because it involves
>> quite a few different domain-specific languages that you have to be
>> proficient in...
>>
>> In this area, node.js is getting very popular. I don't care much for
>> javascript but using it on the server as well as the web browser itself
>> reduced the number of languages you have to know by one.
>
>There's another thing you absolutely have to know when you do web
>development, and that's i18n. This is why I don't recommend Node.js
>for server-side work - because Python's Unicode support is better than
>JS's. Stick with Python (and avoid Python 2 on Windows) and you get
>great Unicode support. Do anything in JavaScript/ECMAScript and you
>get UTF-16 as the official representation. What's the length of the
>string "Hello, world"?
>
>>>> len("Hello, world")
>12
>
>> "Hello, world".length
>12
>
>So far, so good. What if those weren't ASCII characters?
>
>>>> len("=F0=9F=84=B7=F0=9F=84=B4=F0=9F=84=BB=F0=9F=84=BB=F0=9F=84=BE, =F0=9F=85=86=F0=9F=84=BE=F0=9F=85=81=F0=9F=84=BB=F0=9F=84=B3")
>12
>
>(That's Python 3. In Python 2, you'd need to put a u"" prefix on the
>string, but it's otherwise the same, modulo the Windows narrow-build
>issue.)
>
>> "=F0=9F=84=B7=F0=9F=84=B4=F0=9F=84=BB=F0=9F=84=BB=F0=9F=84=BE, =F0=9F=85=86=F0=9F=84=BE=F0=9F=85=81=F0=9F=84=BB=F0=9F=84=B3".length
>22
>
>ECMAScript stipulates that strings are not codepoints, but UTF-16 code
>units, so whenever you work with astral characters (which includes a
>lot of emoticons, Chinese characters, and other symbols that your end
>users *will* use), they'll get things wrong. The length of the string
>counts astral characters twice; indexing/slicing can take half of a
>character; any manipulation at all could corrupt your data.
>
>So, use Python for all your text processing. Life's better that way.
>
>ChrisA
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