Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!dedibox.gegeweb.org!gegeweb.eu!nntpfeed.proxad.net!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; '16,': 0.03; 'broken': 0.04; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'definitions': 0.07; 'cc:addr :python-list': 0.11; 'python': 0.11; 'jan': 0.12; 'foo,': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'thread?': 0.16; 'unicode.': 0.16; 'url:catb': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'thu,': 0.19; '>>>': 0.22; 'saying': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; '2.x': 0.24; 'unicode': 0.24; 'question': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; "doesn't": 0.30; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; '3.x': 0.31; "d'aprano": 0.31; 'steven': 0.31; 'anywhere': 0.35; 'no,': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; "didn't": 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'wrong': 0.37; 'pm,': 0.38; 'even': 0.60; 'subjectcharset:utf-8': 0.72; 'to:none': 0.92 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=hUMU/tMK/LaPv92DZ+VJzhesDVo+v+hm54qaROjfSUE=; b=HE3PMXX/eOfWDTxFp+TCNDtnlszNUpzKvVJ1tMqxFeCNuyVjAwLQRaHLRZbF5szrDc +qbBB3oUPcoq8GvgQmPdvs90YpIe9qrbGr2tESK6asrQT1Ha2/61a9Xo2FYUr8rBaZyo ZUc2z8rkzgQXKWccDXzt8pn2C9Ye+HFNAUScoSB0hdwsPiPltBEdTTGlEzuShkAvNy1Y OQwJ+DVBYPGbPWtIaH5dv754ZY7BW+zC/jWSou5y/qWWirP8u1MNQCCyfF8M7z5P0evv PzCUFHau217HtPDgIEDx0ogBiiZW+rlivvdxBmqWSQ/uiVwsouJuXrg4s0vPYoof2jej l4kA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.66.102.39 with SMTP id fl7mr9032586pab.43.1389869936477; Thu, 16 Jan 2014 02:58:56 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <52D7B9BE.9020001@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> References: <30dfa6f1-61b2-49b8-bc65-5fd18d498c38@googlegroups.com> <52D67873.2010502@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> <5d820037-44ad-4d8d-bb1b-4fb812fc876b@googlegroups.com> <52d72898$0$29970$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <52D7B9BE.9020001@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 21:58:56 +1100 Subject: =?UTF-8?B?UmU6ICdTdHJhw59lJyAoJ1N0cmFzc2UnKSBhbmQgUHl0aG9uIDI=?= From: Chris Angelico Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 20 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1389869944 news.xs4all.nl 2969 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:43585 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:64072 On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 9:51 PM, Robin Becker wrote: > On 16/01/2014 00:32, Steven D'Aprano wrote: >>> >>> >Or are you saying thatwww.unicode.org is wrong about the definitions of >>> >Unicode terms? >> >> No, I think he is saying that he doesn't know Unicode anywhere near as >> well as he thinks he does. The question is, will he cherish his >> ignorance, or learn from this thread? > > > I assure you that I fully understand my ignorance of unicode. Until recently > I didn't even know that the unicode in python 2.x is considered broken and > that str in python 3.x is considered 'better'. Your wisdom, if I may paraphrase Master Foo, is that you know you are a fool. http://catb.org/esr/writings/unix-koans/zealot.html ChrisA