Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!usenet-fr.net!nerim.net!novso.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'python.': 0.02; 'example:': 0.03; '16,': 0.03; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'args': 0.07; 'arguments': 0.09; 'default.': 0.09; 'label,': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'def': 0.12; 'gui': 0.12; 'jan': 0.12; '**kwds):': 0.16; 'dictionaries': 0.16; 'icon': 0.16; 'optional': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'world",': 0.16; 'appropriate': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'possible,': 0.19; 'thu,': 0.19; 'widget': 0.19; 'work,': 0.20; 'written': 0.21; '>>>': 0.22; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.23; 'title,': 0.24; 'question': 0.24; 'sort': 0.25; 'extension': 0.26; 'this:': 0.26; 'developing': 0.27; 'header:X -Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'function': 0.29; 'chris': 0.29; 'skip:p 30': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; 'label': 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; 'class': 0.32; 'probably': 0.32; 'alone': 0.33; 'skip:_ 10': 0.34; 'problem': 0.35; 'possible.': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'keyword': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'error.': 0.37; 'button': 0.38; 'easiest': 0.38; 'window': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'skip:p 20': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'called': 0.40; 'received:173': 0.61; 'name': 0.63; 'such': 0.63; 'happen': 0.63; 'more': 0.64; 'size.': 0.65; 'potentially': 0.81; 'bitmap': 0.84; 'button:': 0.84; "it'd": 0.84; 'received:fios.verizon.net': 0.84; 'children.': 0.93 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Terry Reedy Subject: Re: Python declarative Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2014 17:58:05 -0500 References: <1389805328.32401.6.camel@linux-fetk.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-75-254-207.phlapa.fios.verizon.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 65 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1389826705 news.xs4all.nl 2913 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:46233 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:64023 On 1/15/2014 12:33 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 4:02 AM, Sergio Tortosa Benedito > wrote: >> Hi I'm developing a sort of language extension for writing GUI programs >> called guilang, right now it's written in Lua but I'm considreing Python >> instead (because it's more tailored to alone applications). My question >> it's if I can achieve this declarative-thing in python. Here's an >> example: >> >> Window "myWindow" { >> title="Hello world"; >> Button "myButton" { >> label="I'm a button"; >> onClick=exit >> } >> } >> print(myWindow.myButton.label) > > Probably the easiest way to do that would be with dictionaries or > function named arguments. It'd be something like this: > > myWindow = Window( > title="Hello World", > myButton=Button( > label="I'm a button", > onClick=exit > ) > ) > print(myWindow.myButton.label) This is exactly what I was going to suggest. > For this to work, you'd need a Window class that recognizes a number > of keyword arguments (eg for title and other attributes), and then > takes all other keyword arguments and turns them into its children. I would make the required args positional-or-keyword, with or without a default. Something like (tested) class Window: def __init__(self, title, *kwds) # or title='Window title' self.title = title self.__dict__.update(kwds) class Button: def __init__(self, label, **kwds): self.label = label self.__dict__.update(kwds) >>> I'm a button > Possible, but potentially messy; if you happen to name your button > "icon", it might be misinterpreted as an attempt to set the window's > icon, and cause a very strange and incomprehensible error. Puns are always a problem with such interfaces. Validate the args as much as possible. An icon should be a bitmap of appropriate size. Optional args should perhaps all be widgets (instances of a Widget baseclass). -- Terry Jan Reedy