Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.albasani.net!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; '16,': 0.03; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'encoded': 0.07; 'alter': 0.09; 'definition,': 0.09; 'encode': 0.09; 'image,': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'jan': 0.12; "wouldn't": 0.14; 'argument.': 0.16; 'character.': 0.16; 'encodings,': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'usable': 0.16; 'utf8': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'thu,': 0.19; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'bytes': 0.24; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply- To:1': 0.27; 'chris': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; "doesn't": 0.30; 'code': 0.31; 'lines': 0.31; 'url:wiki': 0.31; 'embed': 0.31; 'url:wikipedia': 0.31; 'lists': 0.32; 'but': 0.35; 'sequence': 0.36; "didn't": 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'easily': 0.37; 'to:addr :python-list': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'numbers': 0.61; 'term': 0.63; 'series': 0.66; 'subjectcharset:iso-8859-1': 0.66; 'received:109': 0.72; 'subject::': 0.85 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Robin Becker Subject: Re: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=27Stra=DFe=27_=28=27Strasse=27=29_and_?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Python_2?= Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2014 17:28:53 +0000 References: <30dfa6f1-61b2-49b8-bc65-5fd18d498c38@googlegroups.com> <52D67873.2010502@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> <52D68402.6030407@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> <570A55FE-6640-4480-BF9A-3C2F8B9C1DC5@gmail.com> <52D6BD83.9000804@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 109.174.168.73 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 22 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1389806945 news.xs4all.nl 2876 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:45820 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:64007 On 15/01/2014 17:14, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 3:55 AM, Robin Becker wrote: >> I think about these as encodings, because that's what they are >> mathematically, logically & practically. I can encode the target grapheme >> sequence as a sequence of bytes using a particular 'unicode encoding' eg >> utf8 or a sequence of code points. > > By that definition, you can equally encode it as a bitmapped image, or > as a series of lines and arcs, and those are equally well "encodings" > of the character. This is not the normal use of that word. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Character_encoding > > ChrisA > Actually I didn't use the term 'character encoding', but that doesn't alter the argument. If I chose to embed the final graphemes as images encoded as bytes or lists of numbers that would still be still be an encoding; it just wouldn't be very easily usable (lots of typing). -- Robin Becker