Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!newsreader4.netcologne.de!news.netcologne.de!xlned.com!feeder7.xlned.com!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'new,': 0.04; 'attributes': 0.05; 'passes': 0.05; '"""': 0.07; 'attribute': 0.07; 'none:': 0.07; 'prints': 0.07; 'raises': 0.07; 'skip:` 10': 0.07; 'stuff,': 0.07; 'will,': 0.07; '>>>>': 0.09; 'created,': 0.09; 'elegant,': 0.09; 'from:addr:ethan': 0.09; 'from:addr:stoneleaf.us': 0.09; 'from:name:ethan furman': 0.09; 'message-id:@stoneleaf.us': 0.09; 'mutable': 0.09; 'received:184.172': 0.09; 'received:gator410.hostgator.com': 0.09; '~ethan~': 0.09; 'def': 0.13; 'feedback.': 0.15; '**kwargs)': 0.16; '**kwargs):': 0.16; '*args,': 0.16; '__init__': 0.16; 'devil': 0.16; 'earlier,': 0.16; 'functools': 0.16; 'metaclass': 0.16; 'received:50': 0.16; 'replaces': 0.16; 'test()': 0.16; 'text:': 0.16; 'with?': 0.16; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.16; 'subject:question': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'arguments': 0.18; 'have:': 0.18; 'instance': 0.18; 'subject:skip:s 10': 0.18; 'later': 0.19; 'seems': 0.20; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.21; "doesn't": 0.22; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.22; 'skip:m 30': 0.24; 'hey': 0.24; 'otherwise,': 0.25; 'cc:2**0': 0.26; 'classes': 0.26; 'function': 0.27; 'there.': 0.27; 'import': 0.27; 'value.': 0.28; "i'm": 0.28; 'posted': 0.29; 'class': 0.29; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.29; 'confusion': 0.30; 'good.': 0.32; 'anyone': 0.32; 'error.': 0.32; 'idea': 0.32; 'list': 0.32; "isn't": 0.33; 'there': 0.33; "won't": 0.33; 'header :User-Agent:1': 0.33; 'named': 0.33; 'object': 0.33; 'checking': 0.34; 'normally': 0.34; 'certain': 0.34; 'set.': 0.34; 'none': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'list.': 0.35; 'question': 0.36; 'created': 0.37; 'run': 0.37; 'passed': 0.37; 'but': 0.37; 'either': 0.37; 'skip:_ 10': 0.38; 'replace': 0.38; 'could': 0.38; 'some': 0.38; 'doing': 0.38; 'processing': 0.39; 'unless': 0.39; 'type': 0.61; 'your': 0.61; 'here': 0.64; 'received:websitewelcome.com': 0.64; 'said:': 0.67; 'care': 0.71; '[3]': 0.73; 'details,': 0.74; 'owen': 0.84; 'received:gateway14.websitewelcome.com': 0.84 Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 14:21:55 -0800 From: Ethan Furman User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Owen Jacobson Subject: Re: stackoverflow question References: <2012031015032562036-angrybaldguy@gmailcom> In-Reply-To: <2012031015032562036-angrybaldguy@gmailcom> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gator410.hostgator.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - python.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - stoneleaf.us X-BWhitelist: no X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: c-50-137-149-57.hsd1.or.comcast.net ([192.168.74.2]) [50.137.149.57]:1621 X-Source-Auth: ethan+stoneleaf.us X-Email-Count: 1 X-Source-Cap: dG9idWs7dG9idWs7Z2F0b3I0MTAuaG9zdGdhdG9yLmNvbQ== Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 106 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1331419892 news.xs4all.nl 6884 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:55073 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:21472 Owen Jacobson wrote: > On 2012-03-09 22:10:18 +0000, Ethan Furman said: > >> Hey all! >> >> I posted a question/answer on SO earlier, but there seems to be some >> confusion around either the question or the answer (judging from the >> comments). >> >> http://stackoverflow.com/q/9638921/208880 >> >> If anyone here is willing to take a look at it and let me know if I >> did not write it well, I would appreciate the feedback. >> >> >> Here's the question text: >> ------------------------ >> I'm writing a metaclass to do some cool stuff, and part of its >> processing is to check that certain attributes exist when the class is >> created. Some of these are mutable, and would normally be set in >> `__init__`, but since `__init__` isn't run until the instance is >> created the metaclass won't know that the attribute *will* be created, >> and raises an error. I could do something like: >> >> class Test(meta=Meta): >> mutable = None >> def __init__(self): >> self.mutable = list() >> >> But that isn't very elegant, and also violates DRY. >> >> What I need is some way to have: >> >> class Test(metaclass=Meta): >> mutable = list() >> >> t1 = Test() >> t2 = Test() >> t1.mutable.append('one') >> t2.mutable.append('two') >> t1.mutable # prints ['one'] >> t2.mutable # prints ['two'] >> >> Any ideas on how this can be accomplished? >> >> Also, the metaclass doing the checking doesn't care what type of >> object the attribute is, only that it is there. >> --------------------------- > > Why check what you can ensure? The __init__ function your metaclass > passes to type() doesn't have to be the __init__ method your metaclass > received. Consider the following: > >>>> import functools as f >>>> >>>> def make_init(real_init): >>>> """Define an __init__ method that ensures ``self.mutable`` is >>>> set. If the >>>> passed ``real_init`` function later replaces ``self.mutable``, >>>> that value >>>> is preserved; otherwise, ``self.mutable`` is set to a new, empty >>>> list. >>>> >>>> Arguments to the generated ``__init__`` method are passed to the >>>> original >>>> ``real_init`` unchanged. >>>> """ >>>> def __init__(self, *args, **kwargs): >>>> self.mutable = list() >>>> if real_init is not None: >>>> return real_init(self, *args, **kwargs) >>>> if real_init is not None: >>>> f.update_wrapper(__init__, real_init) >>>> return __init__ >>>> >>>> class Meta(type): >>>> def __new__(meta, name, parents, attributes): >>>> attributes['__init__'] = >>>> make_init(attributes.get('__init__', None)) >>>> return type.__new__(Meta, name, parents, attributes) >>>> >>>> class C(object): >>>> __metaclass__ = Meta >>>> >>>> a, b = C(), C() >>>> >>>> a.mutable.append(3) >>>> b.mutable.append(5) >>>> >>>> a.mutable > [3] >>>> b.mutable > [5] > > All instances of classes whose metaclass is Meta will, guaranteed, have > an instance field named 'mutable'. Its value is a list created at > instance creation time, unless the instance's __init__ provides a > different value. The idea is good. The devil is in the details, as usual. How is the metaclass going to know: 1) which attributes to replace 2) what to replace them with? ~Ethan~