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On Tuesday, 31 July 2012 18:16:27 UTC+5:30, Stefan Behnel  wrote:
> Stefan Behnel, 31.07.2012 07:23:
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> > From a look at the source code, it seems hard to bring it together with
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> > anything. It looks very monolithic.
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> Hmm, sorry, I mixed it up with "2c.py", which is yet another of those
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> Python-to-C compilers with an all too similar name.
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> https://code.google.com/p/2c-python/
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> There are a couple of others here:
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> http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonImplementations
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> Seeing the number of those compilers, almost none of which is commonly used
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> and/or still alive as a project, the question really is: why another one?
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> I mean, it's totally fine as a hobby educational project, sure, and I
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> really don't want to discourage anyone from going through this to have fun.
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> But apart from "just for fun", what is the goal that would make this
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> particular compiler different from the others? And also different enough to
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> merit its own source base, instead of basing it on one of the existing
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> projects? I don't consider "source is harder to read than to write" a good
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> answer to this in general.

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> Stefan

It converts to *pure* C/C++ *without* using Python or its API so that it can be the same speed as C/C++