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On Mon, 6 Feb 2012 19:57:10 +1100, Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>
wrote:


>Oh, that's something at least. I wasn't aware of what exactly they
>charge for and what they don't.
>

	Though VC++ Express does leave out some stuff that might be
considered critical by some users.

	Maybe I'll find the comparison print-out when I'm done moving into
the new apartment (along with the missing information on the login for
registering -- though I did register before losing that info).

	Ah well, the link will do (I hope -- that looks like a randomly
generated pagie name):
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hs24szh9.aspx

	Ah -- no MFC or ATL (though wikipedia implies those can be obtained
via the driver development kit?); and 64-bit native requires downloading
a separate kit.

	Pity they don't have a similar comparison for VB and VC#...

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