Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!feeder.news-service.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'attributes': 0.05; 'python)': 0.05; 'see:': 0.07; 'python': 0.08; 'namespace': 0.09; 'respond.': 0.09; 'wrote:': 0.15; '"and': 0.16; 'anyways,': 0.16; 'blurb': 0.16; 'constants': 0.16; 'from:addr:python.list': 0.16; 'from:addr:tim.thechases.com': 0.16; 'from:name:tim chase': 0.16; 'message-id:@tim.thechases.com': 0.16; 'received:70.251': 0.16; 'received:dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net': 0.16; 'received:rcsntx.swbell.net': 0.16; 'received:swbell.net': 0.16; 'subject:() ': 0.16; 'subject:function': 0.16; 'cc:addr:python- list': 0.16; 'pm,': 0.16; '>>>': 0.16; '(i.e.': 0.17; 'ignore': 0.21; 'cc:2**0': 0.21; 'filter': 0.22; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.22; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.22; 'welcome.': 0.23; '(or': 0.25; 'function': 0.26; "i'm": 0.27; 'pass': 0.28; 'raise': 0.28; 'objects': 0.28; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.30; 'invoke': 0.30; 'recall': 0.30; 'version': 0.30; 'seem': 0.31; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.34; 'improvements': 0.35; 'replacement': 0.35; 'regular': 0.36; 'enhanced': 0.37; 'some': 0.37; 'brief': 0.37; 'could': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'steven': 0.38; 'something': 0.38; 'comments': 0.38; 'allows': 0.39; "there's": 0.39; "i'd": 0.40; 'where': 0.40; 'methods': 0.40; 'link': 0.63; 'designed': 0.63; 'here': 0.66; '11:29': 0.84; 'by,': 0.84; 'methods?': 0.84; 'sourced': 0.91; 'that),': 0.91 Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2011 12:20:57 -0500 From: Tim Chase User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steven D'Aprano Subject: Re: Enhanced dir() function References: <4e0d4d30$0$29990$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> In-Reply-To: <4e0d4d30$0$29990$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - boston.accountservergroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - python.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - tim.thechases.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 45 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1309543383 news.xs4all.nl 21779 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:57372 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:8642 On 06/30/2011 11:29 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > The dir() function is designed for interactive use, inspecting objects for > the names of attributes and methods. > > Here is an enhanced version that allows you to pass a glob to filter the > names you see: > > Comments and improvements welcome. Having not seen any other comments on it fly by, I thought I'd respond. While in general I like the idea, I'm not sure when I'd go to the effort of bringing the function into my namespace when I could just do something like >>> [s for s in dir(...) if test_of_interest(s)] If it came in as an effortless (i.e. O(1) where I do it once and never again; not an O(n) where n=the number of times I invoke Python) default replacement for dir(), I'd reach for it a lot more readily. I seem to recall there's some environment-var or magic file-name that gets sourced on every startup. I use the list-comp version on a regular basis: # implementation of which magic methods? [s for s in dir(foo) if s.startswith('__') and s.endswith('__')] # ignore magic methods [s for s in dir(foo) if not (s.startswith('__') and s.endswith('__'))] # constants [s for s in dir(foo) if s.isupper()] # keywording [s for s in dir(foo) if 'bar' in s.lower()] Anyways, even if it just includes a brief blurb about "and this is how you get it automatically in every Python session" (or a link to the docs on how to do that), it would raise it from "meh" to "nifty". -tim