Path: csiph.com!news.mixmin.net!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!ecngs!feeder2.ecngs.de!217.188.199.168.MISMATCH!takemy.news.telefonica.de!telefonica.de!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed7.news.xs4all.nl!nzpost1.xs4all.net!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.028 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.95; '*S*': 0.00; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.09; 'integers': 0.09; 'appropriate': 0.14; '3:51': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'naming': 0.16; 'subject:reference': 0.16; 'subject:versus': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; '(not': 0.20; '2015': 0.20; 'cc:2**0': 0.20; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.20; 'sep': 0.22; 'am,': 0.23; 'header:In- Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'van': 0.26; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'idea': 0.28; 'cat': 0.29; 'feeds': 0.29; 'that.': 0.30; '15,': 0.30; 'tue,': 0.34; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'next': 0.35; "isn't": 0.35; 'sometimes': 0.35; 'subject:" ': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'thanks': 0.37; 'someone': 0.38; 'actually,': 0.84; 'chrisa': 0.84; 'daughter.': 0.84; 'neighbor': 0.84; 'to:none': 0.91; 'shares': 0.93 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=ZNVcmuQ4TABdzKVTIkwaMojYlL5qL0PxfKNaG47sBAY=; b=grUDsL1DkextHZoe0qistJskWJYOekHALPb3lzaZR0VIyq0hXrONxFjIeiLa39thh/ 21XpmMQMItv8GUcxJPkeVFZnufaLYzIcNhMAwh+IGa8RMrfZGvtRVlAKvyg1C6tQkfkj 5vfW7+IaQsy1KK3shiGMI7FIVwp1RsWJ5B2ZgmPL0W2M+7T6CULH5U3CGZS93xcVFihz QUO+Tqx684bOlKISwbRMGhQuzX7Cqtz9yvkKKsjvB+1vlWZwpjRMjQnYkzZRLZLb837s j77A2pMpiWEmBABt8hjMr5r/NAMdIUNsIUuvSR6BuNVkQY9Kv2KRlBM2WnasJxVn/Cfv SbXQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.21.10 with SMTP id r10mr21297082ige.94.1442253549254; Mon, 14 Sep 2015 10:59:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <85mvws6z45.fsf_-_@benfinney.id.au> <85io7g6xy4.fsf@benfinney.id.au> <85egi46wng.fsf@benfinney.id.au> <1a1a1f6a-27ce-4c1b-807a-43eabaa04abb@googlegroups.com> <04ca9d7c-d02b-4329-bd94-4d18d86b3edf@googlegroups.com> <87egi375wb.fsf@gmail.com> <87wpvu5h7f.fsf@gmail.com> <87pp1l6h9a.fsf@gmail.com> <1442187517.2372486.382584889.2ED1B071@webmail.messagingengine.com> <874mix5a63.fsf@gmail.com> <55f6fdd9$0$1640$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <1442252093.231783.383350001.6CF3FF6F@webmail.messagingengine.com> Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2015 03:59:08 +1000 Subject: Re: Terminology: "reference" versus "pointer" From: Chris Angelico Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 11 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1442253552 news.xs4all.nl 23727 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:46377 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:96582 On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 3:51 AM, Emile van Sebille wrote: > Actually, boxes with integers in them isn't the appropriate analogy. > Consider the naming of cats. My cat is known to me as Paddy. My next door > neighbor sometimes feeds her and is known to her as Stripes. The cat also > is known as kitty to my youngest daughter. The cat has no idea what its > name is, it just is and eats. Thanks for that. As someone who shares a house with a cat (not my own), I find this apt and amusing. :) ChrisA